Snap

“I can and have removed snaps from Ubuntu and had no issues with losing software I needed.”

“after some snap update on arch apparamor or some other _thing_ blocked start of the electron-based snaps”

“I have used Snap successfully for some projects that are annoying to set up manually”

“You can't remove snaps from Ubuntu, because you lose half of the Ubuntu software that matters when you remove it.”

“I kind of like snaps, other than being easy to make, is that unlike flatpak, they can bundle CLI apps.”

“if they change what it means to run a program in Linux and unexpected things happen, then I consider that broken.”

“i like being able to install e.g. a language toolchain in a self contained way that doesn't depend on or pollute my system libraries”

“you can even have some freedom for installing apps using flatpack/snap if needed”

“block based visual programming, no syntax error, no installation (even works offline once loaded)”

“Snap relies heavily on AppArmor for sandboxing, so on anything non-Ubuntu the sandboxing is non-existent.”

“install a Snap/Flatpak without cluttering the system libraries”

“Snaps are a lot lot better in this regard especially in the perspective of connections.”

“I think you can learn good fundamentals of SWE with tools like Snap!”

“Scratch/Snap is fine for what it is, as a way to get young kids interested in the simple primitives of programming and logic.”

“they make a very compelling case for both block-based coding and their functions-first approach”

“Six months ago I was teaching a beginning-programming course to six kids, using Snap!”

“they also have libraries of sprites and backgrounds which are pretty useful when we use this with students”

“I can NOT wait to get my little one into something like this!”

“There's a difference between you virtualizing programs and your OS vendor virtualizing programs for you without giving you an opt-out.”

“The Windows way, used by Flatpak and Snap, of targetting known-good sets of libraries will work around that.”

“a variant of MIT Scratch that doesn't have the artificial limitations that Scratch has”

“We had a fleet of systems inadvertently moved to Snap, only learned through a loss of announcements on removal.”

“Many techies dislike Snap (to the extent of spreading lies like "it's not FOSS"), but it makes version upgrades safer”

“it breaks basic things such as accessing a folder on a different mount point that the user normally can access perfectly fine.”

“I think the use of classes is fine, and the way that it's introduced in the blog post is good”

“Snaps are ridiculously hostile abusing the mount system and polluting all kinds of places where they have no business going”

“With snaps you effectively get rolling releases of LXD, microk8s, openstack, docker and other relevant things.”

“The attack surface of a privileged install daemon that parses arbitrary package manifests is just too broad.”

“Without snap, the front door is wide open: all applications you run are unconfined within your user account”

“Her only confusion lately has been with the ubuntu snap packages and how they behave between multiple accounts on the machine.”

“You get exactly that with snaps/flatpaks which are not given access to your $HOME.”

“Flatpak and Snaps are built to solve this. They do conflict with some expectations from users”

“Snaps are annoying, because they don't have a cleaning mechanism and old versions just clog your hard drive.”

“throw random programs (flatpaks, snaps, appimages, distroboxes and whatnot helps a ton)”

“So many packages offer a flatpak and a snap and and build-from-source instructions”

“to create artifical market share for their proprietary and paid solutions by preinstalling it on the free version”

“Unfortunately, it just results in breaking those applications specifically instead, in weird and stupid ways that are difficult to debug.”

“they were actually great at integrating with the desktop files when I wanted, but isolating the program otherwise”

“From a ~/snap directory that can't be hidden by design (and the developers are rather vocal about that)”

“none of those should be putting their stuff (especially temporary junk) directly and unsegmented into $HOME”