Salesforce

“this is why servicenow and sales force are just killing it”

“working (and earning) software always trumps correctness etc, in practice.”

“Salesforce is actually one of the better ones I've seen to deal with from a technical perspective.”

“they've kept their platform online for 27 years so far”

“Those just, obviously, can't do almost any of the forty million serious things that Salesforce does, and real businesses do need.”

“But if you’re having trouble with the standard rest or bulk apis, that’s 100% on you.”

“the business model is "it doesn't work, but you can pay folks exorbitant fees to 'customize' it for you"”

“Doing data engineering work with Salesforce data is an exercise on archeology, psychology and organizational politics.”

“in my experience Salesforce SRE team is quite competent”

“If you use salesforce you know what all of that stuff means. Just click on one, it's not rocket surgery.”

“one-platform-for-everything that drives modern businesses like Oracle and Salesforce”

“SFDC is the only one of these kinds of systems that give you a lot of options on the backend and frontend side”

“Salesforce is basically the biggest "Smalltalk" deployment out there”

“Salesforce works well for a reason with all it's integrations, security, features”

“Microsoft, Oracle, Salesforce licenses are a tax compared to what is spent on consultants and integrators”

“Salesforce is very expensive”

“I owned Salesforce setup with 4 engineers and 500+ licenses.”

“Both are effectively enterprise ruby on rails where you can customize and integrate with anything”

“I have to use very heavy websites on a daily basis (like Salesforce)”

“We must all continue to pay for Salesforce and support its workflows for now until the endless future”

“Salesforce is more valuable than Apptio or your home grown CRM because it already has all the features any sales org needs”

“Seems like overkill for a one person startup, but seems decent for a larger company”

“There are exceedingly few reasons a $100m SaaS company shouldn't just be running on SFDC.”

“This all builds systems that are vastly more expensive (to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars), slower, and much harder to fix.”

“Salesforce, SAP, etc exist for a reason.”

“Salesforce has had your client list, the amount the deal is worth, the status of the deal”

“Every company that I've worked at has had to do significant additional development work on their instance of salesforce”

“The established players such as Salesforce, ServiceNow, etc. have a mature product that justifies the 7-figure contract price”

“Salesforce which was draining the heck out of our budget despite us not doing anything technically interesting with it”

“people should admire these companies for the machines / ecosystem they built”

“Nobody gets fired for choosing SAP, Salesforce etc.”

“it was really great .. allowing us to deliver new functionality without the usual IT procurement bureaucracy”

“I know a lot of people who have (as an example) terrible setups with sales force that they have to use.”

“For those of us who've used microsoft teams, jira, servicenow, salesforce”

“I only used salesforce once (was “forced” to use it haha) and it was mind boggling how anyone would ever want to use it”

“start feeling like calcified systems that the end users start hating”

“most small-to-medium businesses are using maybe 10% of its functionality but still paying enterprise prices”

“it's actually kind of amazing, because a lot of people who earn six figures programming Salesforce came to it from a non-traditional software engineering background”

“awful implantation from a partner who pretends to understand your business need but delivers something that doesn't work”

“It is obviously not a database; there is an application around it.”