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Safari
Apple's browser is praised for privacy protections, battery efficiency and Apple device integration, though critics cite aggressive tab reloading, sites that only work in Chrome, and iOS engine lock-in.
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Apple's browser is praised for privacy protections, battery efficiency and Apple device integration, though critics cite aggressive tab reloading, sites that only work in Chrome, and iOS engine lock-in.
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- 307
- criticize
- 577
- months recommended
- 12 of 13
- median owned, 27 owners said
- 13 years
Why people love it
Strong privacy and anti-tracking · 5
Apple has introduced multiple anti-tracking technologies into Safari which prevents Google from collecting information from Safari users.
Feb 2026 · commentApple doesn't collect your browsing data, they build in privacy controls that are pretty much as strong as they can manage
Dec 2025 · commentApple - aside from PWAs competing with their App Store - has no real incentive to commodify, restrict or surveil the web
Jul 2026 · commentFast and energy efficient · 5
if you could use any web browser for 20 minutes before running out of battery vs safari for hours, one is clearly better
Jan 2026 · commentbecause of the seamless integration with Apple platform features and because it is the most energy efficient browser
Aug 2026 · commentperformance is one of the main focuses of Safari and one of the main distinguishing factors that Apple strives for
Oct 2026 · commentSeamless Apple ecosystem integration · 3
because of the seamless integration with Apple platform features and because it is the most energy efficient browser
Aug 2026 · commentSeamless integration of Apple devices is one of the biggest advantages of using Apple software like Safari
Jan 2026 · commentIt's always been fast and smooth, and the integration - like password sync and SMS 2FA keys - works great.
Oct 2026 · commentCounterweight to Chrome's dominance · 3
Safari, Firefox, and hopefully soon Ladybird are the only alternative browser engines keeping them somewhat honest on that front.
Oct 2026 · commentSafari and Firefox are the tiny holdouts that prevent web technology from being 100% controlled by Google.
Oct 2026 · commentBecause it cannot run Chromium, Safari on iPhone is the last refuge of the truly open and truly free web.
Jul 2026 · comment
What people warn about
Tabs reload, lose state · 4
it doesn't behave very well with Reddit (keeps closing and reopening tabs due to "too much memory" problems.
Jul 2026 · commentSomeone should be able to go to their translate app, then their photo galley, and back to Safari without it needing to refresh the context.
Feb 2026 · commentSo I have safari and I can’t switch to my email? Both native apps and sometimes I lose the state of safari if I move more than 10s away?
Feb 2026 · commentiOS forces Safari engine · 4
Apple forces all browsers on iOS to use Safari , which they have intentionally crippled and refuse to let other browsers use their own engine.
Mar 2026 · commentForcing users to use the Safari browser engine when they install Firefox or anything else is not the way to protect anyone from anything.
Oct 2026 · commentForcing Safari on iOS and not making it available on the mass market platforms (Android and Windows) makes it a pretty wonky standard.
Jan 2026 · commentSome sites need Chrome · 3
Safari is fine, but also many websites (which sometimes you need to use like banking or gov) are not tested on it.
Jul 2026 · commentI use Safari as my main browser, I open Chrome only when I encounter a web site that doesn't work in Safari.
May 2026 · commentI 'solved' technical issues for friends and family by having them do a certain process (like a booking) on chrome instead of safari.
Oct 2026 · commentFeatures buried in awkward UI · 3
since iOS 26 basic Safari features such as bookmarks and text search have become so buried deep underneath, they are basically unusable at this point
Mar 2026 · commentThe MacOS Safari translation button appears on the left of the omni-bar, until you click it, at which point it instantly moves to the right
Jan 2026 · commentI had to "share" this page to use the "Find on Page" feature to search whether anyone had mentioned the share button yet. Bonkers.
Jan 2026 · comment
Long-term owners
In 25 years absolutely no one has accused Apple of storing your browsing data that's not e2e encrypted
Mar 2026 · comment
What hackers pick instead
- FirefoxRecommended as the main independent alternative to Chrome, with full uBlock Origin support and deep customization; critics fault Mozilla's AI features, unwanted additions and settings buried in about:config.1572recommend
- BraveA Chromium browser with strong built-in ad blocking, privacy hardening and Chrome extension support, though many distrust its crypto features and past donation and affiliate controversies.397recommend
- Orion Browser by KagiA WebKit browser recommended for running Chrome and Firefox extensions like uBlock Origin on iPhone and Mac, with no telemetry, but critics cite bugs and its closed source.206recommend
- LibreWolfA Firefox fork with privacy-respecting defaults, uBlock Origin built in, and Mozilla's AI and telemetry stripped out; strict anti-fingerprinting can break some sites.113recommend
- WaterfoxFirefox-based browser people switch to for removing Mozilla extras, privacy-minded defaults and no AI features. Critics note it lags Firefox on security fixes.75recommend
Every quote
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Apple has introduced multiple anti-tracking technologies into Safari which prevents Google from collecting information from Safari users.
Recommends · Feb 2026 · in “Apple Platform Security (Jan 2026) [pdf]”
Safari, Firefox, and hopefully soon Ladybird are the only alternative browser engines keeping them somewhat honest on that front.
Recommends · Oct 2026 · in “Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome”
Apple doesn't collect your browsing data, they build in privacy controls that are pretty much as strong as they can manage
Recommends · Dec 2025 · in “Is Mozilla trying hard to kill itself?”
if you could use any web browser for 20 minutes before running out of battery vs safari for hours, one is clearly better
Recommends · Jan 2026 · in “Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is coming to Android”
Apple - aside from PWAs competing with their App Store - has no real incentive to commodify, restrict or surveil the web
Recommends · Jul 2026 · in “Safari Technology Preview 248 Released”
because of the seamless integration with Apple platform features and because it is the most energy efficient browser
Recommends · Aug 2026 · in “Ask HN: What browser do you use?”
Safari is fine, but also many websites (which sometimes you need to use like banking or gov) are not tested on it.
Mixed · Jul 2026 · in “Google Chrome Installed a 4GB AI Model on Your PC”
performance is one of the main focuses of Safari and one of the main distinguishing factors that Apple strives for
Recommends · Oct 2026 · in “Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome”
Intelligent Tracking Prevention (ITP), using on-device machine learning to identify and limit cross-site trackers
Mixed · Apr 2026 · in “Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine”
it doesn't behave very well with Reddit (keeps closing and reopening tabs due to "too much memory" problems.
Mixed · Jul 2026 · in “Orion Browser by Kagi”
I use Safari as my main browser, I open Chrome only when I encounter a web site that doesn't work in Safari.
Recommends · May 2026 · in “MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble”
Seamless integration of Apple devices is one of the biggest advantages of using Apple software like Safari
Recommends · Jan 2026 · in “New Safari developer tools provide insight into CSS Grid Lanes”
Safari and Firefox are the tiny holdouts that prevent web technology from being 100% controlled by Google.
Recommends · Oct 2026 · in “Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome”
It's always been fast and smooth, and the integration - like password sync and SMS 2FA keys - works great.
Recommends · Oct 2026 · in “Apple: Switch to Safari (From Chrome)”
Because it cannot run Chromium, Safari on iPhone is the last refuge of the truly open and truly free web.
Recommends · Jul 2026 · in “The Safari MCP server for web developers”
Safari 18 that for the first time in its history didn't have all the annoying rendering difference or lag
Recommends · Apr 2026 · in “WebKit Features for Safari 26.4”
In 25 years absolutely no one has accused Apple of storing your browsing data that's not e2e encrypted
Recommends · Mar 2026 · in “I'm reluctant to verify my identity or age for any online services”
since iOS 26 basic Safari features such as bookmarks and text search have become so buried deep underneath, they are basically unusable at this point
Criticizes · Mar 2026 · in “Apple's intentional crippling of Mobile Safari continues”
Apple forces all browsers on iOS to use Safari , which they have intentionally crippled and refuse to let other browsers use their own engine.
Criticizes · Mar 2026 · in “Making WebAssembly a first-class language on the Web”
The MacOS Safari translation button appears on the left of the omni-bar, until you click it, at which point it instantly moves to the right
Criticizes · Jan 2026 · in “Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is coming to Android”
Someone should be able to go to their translate app, then their photo galley, and back to Safari without it needing to refresh the context.
Criticizes · Feb 2026 · in “Smartphone Mkt to Decline 13% in '26, Largest Drop Ever Due to Memory Shortage”
Forcing users to use the Safari browser engine when they install Firefox or anything else is not the way to protect anyone from anything.
Criticizes · Oct 2026 · in “Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome”
So I have safari and I can’t switch to my email? Both native apps and sometimes I lose the state of safari if I move more than 10s away?
Criticizes · Feb 2026 · in “Smartphone Mkt to Decline 13% in '26, Largest Drop Ever Due to Memory Shortage”
Forcing Safari on iOS and not making it available on the mass market platforms (Android and Windows) makes it a pretty wonky standard.
Criticizes · Jan 2026 · in “iOS allows alternative browser engines in Japan”
safari on desktop does the same thing even with lots of memory available. Whatever they're doing to limit a tabs resources needs to go
Criticizes · Feb 2026 · in “Smartphone Mkt to Decline 13% in '26, Largest Drop Ever Due to Memory Shortage”
Apple forces you to release your EU app with a different browser engine specifically for European users as a completely separate app
Criticizes · Oct 2026 · in “Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome”
I 'solved' technical issues for friends and family by having them do a certain process (like a booking) on chrome instead of safari.
Criticizes · Oct 2026 · in “Apple: Switch to Safari (From Chrome)”
I had to "share" this page to use the "Find on Page" feature to search whether anyone had mentioned the share button yet. Bonkers.
Criticizes · Jan 2026 · in “It's hard to justify Tahoe icons”
has a very pleasant reader mode that, while not pure markdown, does capture quite a bit of the experience by standardizing presentation and stripping out distractions
Recommends · Aug 2026 · in “TIME Is Serving AI Bots a Different Website, with Ads Built In”
I'll join I saying I also daily Safari for generale usage (with only two extensions installed 1Blocker and Are.na) and I have basically zero issues.
Recommends · Jan 2026 · in “New Safari developer tools provide insight into CSS Grid Lanes”
Safari isn't trapping website developers in "old standards forever", it is encouraging developers to use safe, private, stable choices.
Recommends · Mar 2026 · in “Temporal: The 9-Year Journey to Fix Time in JavaScript”
I also use it as my main browser, so maybe there are some nicer features in other browser dev tools I haven't been exposed too.
Mixed · Jan 2026 · in “New Safari developer tools provide insight into CSS Grid Lanes”
Ad blockers work fine for me in Safari. They may not have the flexibility of manifest v2 but they are hardly crippled.
Recommends · Aug 2026 · in “Facebook ads are so hard to block that uBlock Origin stopped filtering them”
Ever browse in Safari and notice that you can highlight text in the image almost instantly after loading a page?
Recommends · Feb 2026 · in “My thousand dollar iPhone can't do math”
I generally use Safari for reading, and shrinking the browser's width forces lines of text to not get too long
Mixed · Mar 2026 · in “Make macOS consistently bad (unironically)”
their products like iMessage, Safari and the App Store are artificially segregated from free-market pressures
Mixed · Nov 2025 · in “The EU made Apple adopt new Wi-Fi standards, and now Android can support AirDrop”
I default any video watching longer than a short clip to safari. It is still the best browser for video IME.
Recommends · Dec 2025 · in “Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo”
Simple, easy tools are already there, such as the Clear Browsing Data menu item in Chrome, Edge, and Safari.
Recommends · Jul 2026 · in “Kill The Cookie Banner”
The only reason I moved away was that as a Mac gets older, there comes a point where you can't update the OS
Mixed · Oct 2026 · in “Apple's new 'Switch to Safari' campaign details why you should ditch Chrome”
Apple has put a ton of effort into Safari recently and have shot up to the top of the interop leaderboards.
Recommends · Dec 2025 · in “Fifty problems with standard web APIs in 2025”
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