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Meta Muse Glimmer 30B

Ranked 4 of 15 coding models by recommenders

Praised as a terse, efficient local coding model that runs well on consumer hardware; critics say it trails Qwen 3.6 on benchmarks and distrust Meta.

Praised as a terse, efficient local coding model that runs well on consumer hardware; critics say it trails Qwen 3.6 on benchmarks and distrust Meta.

88 people gave an opinion

recommend it
70
criticize it
18
approval share
80%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 3 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: not recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: not recommended
  4. February 2026: not recommended
  5. March 2026: not recommended
  6. April 2026: not recommended
  7. May 2026: not recommended
  8. June 2026: not recommended
  9. July 2026: not recommended
  10. August 2026: recommended
  11. September 2026: recommended
  12. October 2026: recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 70 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 3.9 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, met.
  • Recommended in 3 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, not met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Reaches answers faster than Qwen

    “Muse Glimmer is better in practice on low reasoning strength, and while its token generation is slow, it actually gets to answers pretty quickly.”

    Comment from 26 Oct 2026 in “IBM CEO says open weight models are now good and cheap on-prem”

    “Muse Glimmer (dense 30B), in practice, can get to better answers more quickly than Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B.”

    Comment from 23 Oct 2026 in “Gemma-4-26B-A4B with 39-69% less thinking at same accuracy”

    “I was getting some decent results out of Muse Glimmer which was more than twice as fast”

    Comment from 14 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet”
  • Terse, token-efficient reasoning

    “I haven't really got that far in, but it writes in a sort of clipped, geeky note form in the reasoning traces”

    Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

    “its thinking traces are really quite terse. It genuinely seems to spend many fewer tokens on reasoning”

    Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

    “I like the style of glimmer more. Much terser language, no adjectives, no fluffy claude-like language.”

    Comment from 17 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinking things”
  • Capable in agentic coding

    “It is quite good, far better than the benchmarks let on, especially in heavily agentic cases”

    Comment from 15 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet”

    “I have it running sometimes at least 8 hours straight on a single prompt and no weirdness.”

    Comment from 11 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

    “Optimizing models specifically for always-on local agent workflows is the right primitive”

    Comment from 11 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”
  • Runs well on consumer hardware

    “Glad to see the extra engineering effort that went into creating this local model and making it run well on a consumer device.”

    Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

    “I can run glimmer with a full 128k context window with the draft model at 65-80 tok/s.”

    Comment from 14 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet”

    “runs quite well on my M1 Max as it is 30B but it also reasons very efficiently”

    Comment from 1 Sep 2026 in “Show HN: Running 104GB Qwen3.8-Flash-Next on 48GB Mac with at ~12 tok/s”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Slow token generation

    “It wasn't super fast, but it was manageable and it completed the tasks I gave it well.”

    Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

    “Muse Glimmer may be a little slower per token, but it uses them very efficiently”

    Comment from 29 Aug 2026 in “GLM-5.3 is now open-weight”

    “This model I think will be too slow for that on Spark, even at 4 bit quant.”

    Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”
  • Trails Qwen 3.6 on benchmarks

    “This release is not a meaningful improvement in any metric over 5 months old Qwen 3.6.”

    Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

    “seems to underperform on Terminal Bench compared with qwen3.6-27b: 51.7 vs 60.7”

    Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

    “But then Glimmer already loses to 3.6 27B on it by a large margin.”

    Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”
  • Distrust of Meta

    “I agree with their open-source model approach, but actually trusting Meta… to protect my privacy and my data”

    Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

    “Given Meta's track record, I would not touch anything from them with a 10 feet pole.”

    Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

    “I'm glad it's open. It does not make me think any better of Meta.”

    Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”
  • Loops and skips asking questions

    “wasn't impressed, gave it some defective code, and asked it to fix all errors. It kept looping around and around”

    Comment from 11 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

    “Muse Glimmer sometimes decides it has what it needs and has no need to ask”

    Comment from 14 Sep 2026 in “Astra and Fable still hack on simple variants of alignment evals from 2025”

Other coding models people recommend

The four most recommended other coding models, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

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What people said

40 of the 140 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“Muse Glimmer is better in practice on low reasoning strength, and while its token generation is slow, it actually gets to answers pretty quickly.”

RecommendsComment from 26 Oct 2026 in “IBM CEO says open weight models are now good and cheap on-prem”

“Muse Glimmer (dense 30B), in practice, can get to better answers more quickly than Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B.”

RecommendsComment from 23 Oct 2026 in “Gemma-4-26B-A4B with 39-69% less thinking at same accuracy”

“I really like Muse Glimmer, and on low reasoning level it's both helpful and quite quick.”

RecommendsComment from 22 Oct 2026 in “Recursive Introduces Flint Model”

“Muse Glimmer sometimes decides it has what it needs and has no need to ask”

CriticizesComment from 14 Sep 2026 in “Astra and Fable still hack on simple variants of alignment evals from 2025”

“runs quite well on my M1 Max as it is 30B but it also reasons very efficiently”

RecommendsComment from 1 Sep 2026 in “Show HN: Running 104GB Qwen3.8-Flash-Next on 48GB Mac with at ~12 tok/s”

“Muse Glimmer may be a little slower per token, but it uses them very efficiently”

MixedComment from 29 Aug 2026 in “GLM-5.3 is now open-weight”

“you will likely find it solves actual problems faster than Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B”

RecommendsComment from 25 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8-Flash-Next releasing tomorrow (125B a6B)”

“Muse Glimmer is fine, actually. Gets to the solution as quickly as Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B.”

RecommendsComment from 23 Aug 2026 in “The Vibe Tax”

“I found it more usable on my hardware because I can get an answer quicker.”

RecommendsComment from 17 Aug 2026 in “Qwen3.8 27B scores 52 on Artificial Analysis”

“holds its own (for agentic code workloads) against models 5x to 10x its size”

RecommendsComment from 17 Aug 2026 in “Qwen3.8 27B scores 52 on Artificial Analysis”

“I like the style of glimmer more. Much terser language, no adjectives, no fluffy claude-like language.”

RecommendsComment from 17 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinking things”

“It gets the job done quicker than A3B despite being several times slower.”

RecommendsComment from 17 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinking things”

“It is quite good, far better than the benchmarks let on, especially in heavily agentic cases”

RecommendsComment from 15 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet”

“Muse Glimmer actually has by far the lowest per-token cache usage for the competitive 30B-class dense models”

RecommendsComment from 15 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet”

“I'm in the exact same boat with a 7900 XT and a good Glimmer 30B experience”

RecommendsComment from 15 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet”

“I was quite impressed by Muse Glimmer, and while I am sure people will observe that it is less good on benchmarks”

RecommendsComment from 14 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet”

“I was getting some decent results out of Muse Glimmer which was more than twice as fast”

RecommendsComment from 14 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet”

“I can run glimmer with a full 128k context window with the draft model at 65-80 tok/s.”

RecommendsComment from 14 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet”

“Like a talented, slightly snarky guy who is maybe a bit of a dick but quite fun to be around.”

MixedComment from 14 Aug 2026 in “Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?”

“we've optimised our inference engine to run Meta Muse Glimmer 30B faster than any other engine”

RecommendsComment from 12 Aug 2026 in “Fastest Inference Meta Muse Glimmer 30B on Apple”

“They were all able to build a working collaborative whiteboard app, without any guidance”

RecommendsComment from 12 Aug 2026 in “Nvidia Nemotron 3.5 lightning and Nemo Switchyard”

“I have it running sometimes at least 8 hours straight on a single prompt and no weirdness.”

RecommendsComment from 11 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“Optimizing models specifically for always-on local agent workflows is the right primitive”

RecommendsComment from 11 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“for FOSS and self hosted it is good - but I am still wondering how are they going to Meta-stasize it”

MixedComment from 11 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“wasn't impressed, gave it some defective code, and asked it to fix all errors. It kept looping around and around”

CriticizesComment from 11 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“Having spent a good part of the day with it, glimmer reminds me of Rorschach from The Watchmen. No unessential parts of speech, action oriented, brief and to the point.”

RecommendsComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“I agree with their open-source model approach, but actually trusting Meta… to protect my privacy and my data”

MixedComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“I haven't really got that far in, but it writes in a sort of clipped, geeky note form in the reasoning traces”

MixedComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“its thinking traces are really quite terse. It genuinely seems to spend many fewer tokens on reasoning”

MixedComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“But then Glimmer already loses to 3.6 27B on it by a large margin.”

CriticizesComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“It wasn't super fast, but it was manageable and it completed the tasks I gave it well.”

MixedComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“It has all of the components of a pelican riding a bicycle, though not exactly arranged in the right order!”

MixedComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“I kind of prefer this workflow, as I stay more in touch with how the codebase is structured.”

RecommendsComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“seems to underperform on Terminal Bench compared with qwen3.6-27b: 51.7 vs 60.7”

CriticizesComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“Given Meta's track record, I would not touch anything from them with a 10 feet pole.”

CriticizesComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“Glad to see the extra engineering effort that went into creating this local model and making it run well on a consumer device.”

RecommendsComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“This release is not a meaningful improvement in any metric over 5 months old Qwen 3.6.”

CriticizesComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“Glimmer looks really strong, I'm encouraged that Meta compared it to 3.6 in the model card!”

RecommendsComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“I'm glad it's open. It does not make me think any better of Meta.”

MixedComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

“This model I think will be too slow for that on Spark, even at 4 bit quant.”

CriticizesComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model”

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