Meta Muse Glimmer 30B
Ranked 4 of 15 coding models by recommenders
Praised as a terse, efficient local coding model that runs well on consumer hardware; critics say it trails Qwen 3.6 on benchmarks and distrust Meta.
Praised as a terse, efficient local coding model that runs well on consumer hardware; critics say it trails Qwen 3.6 on benchmarks and distrust Meta.
88 people gave an opinion
- recommend it
- 70
- criticize it
- 18
- approval share
- 80%
Recommended in 3 of 13 months
- November 2025: not recommended
- December 2025: not recommended
- January 2026: not recommended
- February 2026: not recommended
- March 2026: not recommended
- April 2026: not recommended
- May 2026: not recommended
- June 2026: not recommended
- July 2026: not recommended
- August 2026: recommended
- September 2026: recommended
- October 2026: recommended
- November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)
Why it doesn’t carry the badge
- 70 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
- 3.9 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, met.
- Recommended in 3 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, not met.
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What people say about it
The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.
Why people recommend it
Each mark is one comment
Reaches answers faster than Qwen
“Muse Glimmer is better in practice on low reasoning strength, and while its token generation is slow, it actually gets to answers pretty quickly.”
Comment from 26 Oct 2026 in “IBM CEO says open weight models are now good and cheap on-prem” “Muse Glimmer (dense 30B), in practice, can get to better answers more quickly than Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B.”
Comment from 23 Oct 2026 in “Gemma-4-26B-A4B with 39-69% less thinking at same accuracy” “I was getting some decent results out of Muse Glimmer which was more than twice as fast”
Comment from 14 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet” - Comment from 23 Aug 2026 in “The Vibe Tax”
- Comment from 25 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8-Flash-Next releasing tomorrow (125B a6B)”
- Comment from 17 Aug 2026 in “Qwen3.8 27B scores 52 on Artificial Analysis”
- Comment from 17 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinking things”
Terse, token-efficient reasoning
“I haven't really got that far in, but it writes in a sort of clipped, geeky note form in the reasoning traces”
Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” “its thinking traces are really quite terse. It genuinely seems to spend many fewer tokens on reasoning”
Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” “I like the style of glimmer more. Much terser language, no adjectives, no fluffy claude-like language.”
Comment from 17 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinking things” - Comment from 29 Aug 2026 in “GLM-5.3 is now open-weight”
- Comment from 1 Sep 2026 in “Show HN: Running 104GB Qwen3.8-Flash-Next on 48GB Mac with at ~12 tok/s”
Capable in agentic coding
“It is quite good, far better than the benchmarks let on, especially in heavily agentic cases”
Comment from 15 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet” “I have it running sometimes at least 8 hours straight on a single prompt and no weirdness.”
Comment from 11 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” “Optimizing models specifically for always-on local agent workflows is the right primitive”
Comment from 11 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” - Comment from 12 Aug 2026 in “Nvidia Nemotron 3.5 lightning and Nemo Switchyard”
- Comment from 17 Aug 2026 in “Qwen3.8 27B scores 52 on Artificial Analysis”
Runs well on consumer hardware
“Glad to see the extra engineering effort that went into creating this local model and making it run well on a consumer device.”
Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” “I can run glimmer with a full 128k context window with the draft model at 65-80 tok/s.”
Comment from 14 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet” “runs quite well on my M1 Max as it is 30B but it also reasons very efficiently”
Comment from 1 Sep 2026 in “Show HN: Running 104GB Qwen3.8-Flash-Next on 48GB Mac with at ~12 tok/s” - Comment from 15 Aug 2026 in “Qwen 3.8 27B is out: open weights, best local dense model yet”
What people warn about
Each mark is one comment
Slow token generation
“It wasn't super fast, but it was manageable and it completed the tasks I gave it well.”
Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” “Muse Glimmer may be a little slower per token, but it uses them very efficiently”
Comment from 29 Aug 2026 in “GLM-5.3 is now open-weight” “This model I think will be too slow for that on Spark, even at 4 bit quant.”
Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” Trails Qwen 3.6 on benchmarks
“This release is not a meaningful improvement in any metric over 5 months old Qwen 3.6.”
Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” “seems to underperform on Terminal Bench compared with qwen3.6-27b: 51.7 vs 60.7”
Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” “But then Glimmer already loses to 3.6 27B on it by a large margin.”
Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” Distrust of Meta
“I agree with their open-source model approach, but actually trusting Meta… to protect my privacy and my data”
Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” “Given Meta's track record, I would not touch anything from them with a 10 feet pole.”
Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” “I'm glad it's open. It does not make me think any better of Meta.”
Comment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” Loops and skips asking questions
“wasn't impressed, gave it some defective code, and asked it to fix all errors. It kept looping around and around”
Comment from 11 Aug 2026 in “Meta Muse Glimmer – open weights 30B local coding model” “Muse Glimmer sometimes decides it has what it needs and has no need to ask”
Comment from 14 Sep 2026 in “Astra and Fable still hack on simple variants of alignment evals from 2025”
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| Cursor Composer | 214 | 79 | 73% | 12 | 1 mo11 owners | Approved |
| Qwen3-Coder | 165 | 49 | 77% | 12 | 2 mo7 owners | Approved |
| GPT-5.3-Codex | 135 | 78 | 63% | 11 | 2 mo4 owners | — |
| Meta Muse Glimmer 30BThis page | 70 | 18 | 80% | 3 | — | — |
| GPT-5.2-Codex | 54 | 33 | 62% | 4 | — | — |
What people said
40 of the 140 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.
“Muse Glimmer is better in practice on low reasoning strength, and while its token generation is slow, it actually gets to answers pretty quickly.”
“Muse Glimmer (dense 30B), in practice, can get to better answers more quickly than Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B.”
“I really like Muse Glimmer, and on low reasoning level it's both helpful and quite quick.”
“Muse Glimmer sometimes decides it has what it needs and has no need to ask”
“runs quite well on my M1 Max as it is 30B but it also reasons very efficiently”
“Muse Glimmer may be a little slower per token, but it uses them very efficiently”
“you will likely find it solves actual problems faster than Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B”
“Muse Glimmer is fine, actually. Gets to the solution as quickly as Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B.”
“I found it more usable on my hardware because I can get an answer quicker.”
“holds its own (for agentic code workloads) against models 5x to 10x its size”
“I like the style of glimmer more. Much terser language, no adjectives, no fluffy claude-like language.”
“It gets the job done quicker than A3B despite being several times slower.”
“It is quite good, far better than the benchmarks let on, especially in heavily agentic cases”
“Muse Glimmer actually has by far the lowest per-token cache usage for the competitive 30B-class dense models”
“I'm in the exact same boat with a 7900 XT and a good Glimmer 30B experience”
“I was quite impressed by Muse Glimmer, and while I am sure people will observe that it is less good on benchmarks”
“I was getting some decent results out of Muse Glimmer which was more than twice as fast”
“I can run glimmer with a full 128k context window with the draft model at 65-80 tok/s.”
“Like a talented, slightly snarky guy who is maybe a bit of a dick but quite fun to be around.”
“we've optimised our inference engine to run Meta Muse Glimmer 30B faster than any other engine”
“They were all able to build a working collaborative whiteboard app, without any guidance”
“I have it running sometimes at least 8 hours straight on a single prompt and no weirdness.”
“Optimizing models specifically for always-on local agent workflows is the right primitive”
“for FOSS and self hosted it is good - but I am still wondering how are they going to Meta-stasize it”
“wasn't impressed, gave it some defective code, and asked it to fix all errors. It kept looping around and around”
“Having spent a good part of the day with it, glimmer reminds me of Rorschach from The Watchmen. No unessential parts of speech, action oriented, brief and to the point.”
“I agree with their open-source model approach, but actually trusting Meta… to protect my privacy and my data”
“I haven't really got that far in, but it writes in a sort of clipped, geeky note form in the reasoning traces”
“its thinking traces are really quite terse. It genuinely seems to spend many fewer tokens on reasoning”
“But then Glimmer already loses to 3.6 27B on it by a large margin.”
“It wasn't super fast, but it was manageable and it completed the tasks I gave it well.”
“It has all of the components of a pelican riding a bicycle, though not exactly arranged in the right order!”
“I kind of prefer this workflow, as I stay more in touch with how the codebase is structured.”
“seems to underperform on Terminal Bench compared with qwen3.6-27b: 51.7 vs 60.7”
“Given Meta's track record, I would not touch anything from them with a 10 feet pole.”
“Glad to see the extra engineering effort that went into creating this local model and making it run well on a consumer device.”
“This release is not a meaningful improvement in any metric over 5 months old Qwen 3.6.”
“Glimmer looks really strong, I'm encouraged that Meta compared it to 3.6 in the model card!”
“I'm glad it's open. It does not make me think any better of Meta.”
“This model I think will be too slow for that on Spark, even at 4 bit quant.”
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