Ladybird browser

“Posting from Ladybird BTW (compiled from git today), which is starting to take shape!”

“Safari, Firefox, and hopefully soon Ladybird are the only alternative browser engines keeping them somewhat honest on that front.”

“The latter seems to be just building a browser that's going to be crashy and not really work on the web”

“It's unlikely to be a replacement for the majority of average users but can be popular among people like us.”

“their pre-alpha version was capable of running my extremely heavy JS+ SVG + worker thread + SSE app”

“something is off ever since they announced the decision to close the project to outside contributions”

“I truly hope Ladybird, Servo, and Flow succeed in building mature and competitive web engines”

“The sites I looked at (without login or anything) basically all work fine but they are VERY slow.”

“Ladybird is great at showing how the incidental complexity of web browsers could be vastly reduced”

“But the biggest problem is reliability. I would not use it in its current form for anything that matters.”

“It's understandable that a team without much funding would have to close off contributions to spare on labor costs.”

“why would I sink time into a project with such rules that put a barrier to improving my life with the software?”

“I think they're moving in the WebKit/Safari direction: open for you to look at, but not really an open source project.”

“depending on the sites you browse daily (like HN - which works fine), you might be able to use one of these as a daily-driver”

“I've heard enough about their past behaviour from separate independent sources to know I'd never use Ladybird”

“Kling loudly shouting "I support the free speech rights of fascists but get away from me with that DEI shit" doesn't give me warm fuzzies about using Ladybird”

“building it locally is easy, just a couple of commands to install dependencies and run the build script”

“To get to the point where these artificial gates substantially matter for interop, you've already cleared 99% of the hurdles”

“Biggest problem other than speed is that a lot of the “verify you are a human” checks do not work with it.”

“So good to see another independent browser engine around. I am watching their monthly progress videos on YT and it is quite amazing how well the project has evolved”

“I still think there should be competitors to Google, so it is good that Ladybird exists”

“in a couple of years they built the engine from scratch. it's going to soon enter Alpha.”

“Ladybird is much further ahead in terms of actually rendering web pages that people use.”

“Ladybird isn’t usable right now, and if it was usable, improving the memory safety would be a commendable goal.”

“Anything trying to break the browser monopolies in a meaningful way deserves the hype”

“migrating their JS library to Rust is probably one of the best ways to gain advantage over any other existing engine”

“Moving Ladybird from C++ to a safer more modern language is a real differentiator vs other browsers”

“If this means we will get an independent state-of-the-art browser engine, I'm all for it.”

“This comment is being written in Ladybird. I have managed GitHub projects in Ladybird.”

“Making incedible progress month after month using the language you started with seems pretty good too.”

“Carefully making decisions and then reassessing those choices later on when they prove to be problematic is the opposite of handwavey”

“The moment you make any statement that they perceive as "criticism" is the moment their code of conduct kicks in and locks you out.”

“Ladybird is further ahead than Servo, at least with what it can render and how correct it is. But Ladybird is a lot slower at this point.”

“Ladybird has driven a lot of the effort, otherwise we'd just see browsers continuing to use Chromium”

“It's far from being complete, but it clearly shows that you don't need an enormous budget to build a Web browser entirely from scratch”

“The whole point of Ladybird is to kinda prove that a completely independent browser engine is feasible”

“I’ve heard enough from multiple sources about Ladybird’s creator to know that I don’t wish to support him”

“Having multiple competing browsers again that are not controlled by megacorps would be great.”

“You can use it right now if you build it from source, in fact I am writing this HN comment from it.”

“thankfully next generation of browsers are here - ladybug and servo, so at least something will survive even in the worst of the worst cases”