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Apfel

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Ranked 7 of 27 local LLM runners by recommenders

Free, fully local command-line wrapper for Apple's on-device model, useful for shell scripts without cloud calls. Critics note a 4K context window, weak guardrails and an overhyped landing page.

Free, fully local command-line wrapper for Apple's on-device model, useful for shell scripts without cloud calls. Critics note a 4K context window, weak guardrails and an overhyped landing page.

58 people gave an opinion

recommend it
41
criticize it
17
approval share
71%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 5 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: not recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: not recommended
  4. February 2026: not recommended
  5. March 2026: recommended
  6. April 2026: recommended
  7. May 2026: not recommended
  8. June 2026: recommended
  9. July 2026: not recommended
  10. August 2026: recommended
  11. September 2026: recommended
  12. October 2026: not recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it carries the badge

  • 41 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 2.4 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, met.
  • Recommended in 5 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Free, local, no cloud calls

    “using it in bash scripts that just work without calling home / out or incurring extra costs feels super powerful.”

    Comment from 31 Mar 2026 in “Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview”

    “zero cost and fully local is hard to beat for quick throwaway tasks”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

    “local model + tool calling with no cloud dependency is a nice setup”

    Comment from 6 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”
  • Useful in shell scripts and pipes

    “using it in bash scripts that just work without calling home / out or incurring extra costs feels super powerful.”

    Comment from 31 Mar 2026 in “Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview”

    “I like being able to pipe output into a local LLM to get an explanation of the output.”

    Comment from 9 Jun 2026 in “Apple reveals new AI architecture built around Google Gemini models”

    “great for shell scripts though (my major use case now)”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”
  • Apple model available as CLI

    “you can install the apfel stuff if you're on a mac and want a quick available onboard cli option”

    Comment from 27 Apr 2026 in “GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing”

    “There's a project called Apfel that wraps it in a CLI.”

    Comment from 2 Jun 2026 in “Chipotlai Max”

    “Apfel[0] has exposed it as a CLI”

    Comment from 13 Aug 2026 in “uBlock Origin Is Giving Up the Fight to Keep Ads Off Facebook”
  • Impressive, runs on Neural Engine

    “I was able to confirm that it actually runs on ANE, I'm impressed.”

    Comment from 5 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

    “I've been playing with it for some time now I'm impressed.”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Overhyped, marketing-heavy landing page

    “I appreciate the project itself! It's just these flashy LLM-generated webpages are really misleading.”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

    “Extremely oversold landing page, very marketing heavy for what it is.”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

    “Cool tool but I don't get why these websites make idiotic claims”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”
  • Fails on older macOS versions

    “I was able to install it on my older macos 15, but it aborted on execution.”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

    “I'm running Sequoia still and get an error about model not found.”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”
  • Small 4K context, weak guardrails

    “it isn't very good. And the guardrails are hilariously bad.”

    Comment from 1 Apr 2026 in “Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview”

    “the 4k token context window and the super hard guardrails”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

    “The combined (input/output) context window length is 4K.”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”
  • Inconsistent, inaccurate answers

    “Hugely non-deterministic: repeat queries give vastly different responses.”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

    “I'm sorry, I don't see a 'Carol Bring' in your contacts”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

    “Seems like it struggles as much as a normal person”

    Comment from 5 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

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What people said

40 of the 64 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“Apfel[0] has exposed it as a CLI”

RecommendsComment from 13 Aug 2026 in “uBlock Origin Is Giving Up the Fight to Keep Ads Off Facebook”

“I like being able to pipe output into a local LLM to get an explanation of the output.”

RecommendsComment from 9 Jun 2026 in “Apple reveals new AI architecture built around Google Gemini models”

“Apfel is a cool project; it's been the only thing tempting me to upgrade to Tahoe”

RecommendsComment from 9 Jun 2026 in “Apple Core AI Framework”

“Something I grab on a regular basis, especially for doing simple education of folks about the basics of using LLMs”

RecommendsComment from 8 Jun 2026 in “Apple Core AI Framework”

“Apfel is very useful, thanks for the effort.”

RecommendsComment from 8 Jun 2026 in “Apple Core AI Framework”

“If you've got a mac, you can use this to play around with it:”

RecommendsComment from 8 Jun 2026 in “Apple reveals new AI architecture built around Google Gemini models”

“There's a project called Apfel that wraps it in a CLI.”

RecommendsComment from 2 Jun 2026 in “Chipotlai Max”

“you can install the apfel stuff if you're on a mac and want a quick available onboard cli option”

RecommendsComment from 27 Apr 2026 in “GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing”

“No model download necessary”

RecommendsComment from 7 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Ghost Pepper – 100% local hold-to-talk speech-to-text for macOS”

“local model + tool calling with no cloud dependency is a nice setup”

RecommendsComment from 6 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“I was able to confirm that it actually runs on ANE, I'm impressed.”

RecommendsComment from 5 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“Seems like it struggles as much as a normal person”

CriticizesComment from 5 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“Rust version goofed with lines of comments and code intertwined.”

MixedComment from 4 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“I appreciate the project itself! It's just these flashy LLM-generated webpages are really misleading.”

MixedComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“Hugely non-deterministic: repeat queries give vastly different responses.”

CriticizesComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“I'm sorry, I don't see a 'Carol Bring' in your contacts”

CriticizesComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“It's absolutely free and open source”

RecommendsComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“love the simple website and typography”

RecommendsComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“I was able to install it on my older macos 15, but it aborted on execution.”

MixedComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“Extremely oversold landing page, very marketing heavy for what it is.”

MixedComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“just the marketing goes hard a bit”

MixedComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“Apple's model came out on top—best accuracy in 6 out of 10 cases in the backtest.”

RecommendsComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“Local AIs are the future in times of limited resources.”

RecommendsComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“zero cost and fully local is hard to beat for quick throwaway tasks”

MixedComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“It's a nice LLM because it seems fairly decent and it loads instantly”

MixedComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“it being limited to English from what I can tell is quite a downsite for me”

MixedComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“I like the approach of running everything locally.”

RecommendsComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“I like the idea and the clarity to explain the usage”

RecommendsComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“They offer it as an option but default it to false!”

RecommendsComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“Cool tool but I don't get why these websites make idiotic claims”

MixedComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“I've been playing with it for some time now I'm impressed.”

RecommendsComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“great for shell scripts though (my major use case now)”

MixedComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“The combined (input/output) context window length is 4K.”

CriticizesComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“I'm running Sequoia still and get an error about model not found.”

MixedComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“the 4k token context window and the super hard guardrails”

CriticizesComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“it isn't very good. And the guardrails are hilariously bad.”

CriticizesComment from 1 Apr 2026 in “Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview”

“this is real neat. I'll give it a spin.”

RecommendsComment from 31 Mar 2026 in “Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview”

“without calling home or downloading extra local models”

RecommendsComment from 31 Mar 2026 in “Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview”

“using it in bash scripts that just work without calling home / out or incurring extra costs feels super powerful.”

RecommendsComment from 31 Mar 2026 in “Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview”

“Apple Ai on the command line”

RecommendsComment from 25 Mar 2026 in “Local LLM by Ente”

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