Apfel
Hacker ApprovedRanked 7 of 27 local LLM runners by recommenders
Free, fully local command-line wrapper for Apple's on-device model, useful for shell scripts without cloud calls. Critics note a 4K context window, weak guardrails and an overhyped landing page.
Free, fully local command-line wrapper for Apple's on-device model, useful for shell scripts without cloud calls. Critics note a 4K context window, weak guardrails and an overhyped landing page.
58 people gave an opinion
- recommend it
- 41
- criticize it
- 17
- approval share
- 71%
Recommended in 5 of 13 months
- November 2025: not recommended
- December 2025: not recommended
- January 2026: not recommended
- February 2026: not recommended
- March 2026: recommended
- April 2026: recommended
- May 2026: not recommended
- June 2026: recommended
- July 2026: not recommended
- August 2026: recommended
- September 2026: recommended
- October 2026: not recommended
- November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)
Why it carries the badge
- 41 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
- 2.4 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, met.
- Recommended in 5 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.
The same three rules apply to every product, and the badge can’t be bought. How the badge works
What people say about it
The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.
Why people recommend it
Each mark is one comment
Free, local, no cloud calls
“using it in bash scripts that just work without calling home / out or incurring extra costs feels super powerful.”
Comment from 31 Mar 2026 in “Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview” “zero cost and fully local is hard to beat for quick throwaway tasks”
Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” “local model + tool calling with no cloud dependency is a nice setup”
Comment from 6 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” - Comment from 31 Mar 2026 in “Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview”
- Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”
- Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”
- Comment from 7 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Ghost Pepper – 100% local hold-to-talk speech-to-text for macOS”
Useful in shell scripts and pipes
“using it in bash scripts that just work without calling home / out or incurring extra costs feels super powerful.”
Comment from 31 Mar 2026 in “Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview” “I like being able to pipe output into a local LLM to get an explanation of the output.”
Comment from 9 Jun 2026 in “Apple reveals new AI architecture built around Google Gemini models” “great for shell scripts though (my major use case now)”
Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” Apple model available as CLI
“you can install the apfel stuff if you're on a mac and want a quick available onboard cli option”
Comment from 27 Apr 2026 in “GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing” “There's a project called Apfel that wraps it in a CLI.”
Comment from 2 Jun 2026 in “Chipotlai Max” “Apfel[0] has exposed it as a CLI”
Comment from 13 Aug 2026 in “uBlock Origin Is Giving Up the Fight to Keep Ads Off Facebook” - Comment from 25 Mar 2026 in “Local LLM by Ente”
Impressive, runs on Neural Engine
“I was able to confirm that it actually runs on ANE, I'm impressed.”
Comment from 5 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” “I've been playing with it for some time now I'm impressed.”
Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”
What people warn about
Each mark is one comment
Overhyped, marketing-heavy landing page
“I appreciate the project itself! It's just these flashy LLM-generated webpages are really misleading.”
Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” “Extremely oversold landing page, very marketing heavy for what it is.”
Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” “Cool tool but I don't get why these websites make idiotic claims”
Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” - Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”
Fails on older macOS versions
“I was able to install it on my older macos 15, but it aborted on execution.”
Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” “I'm running Sequoia still and get an error about model not found.”
Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” Small 4K context, weak guardrails
“it isn't very good. And the guardrails are hilariously bad.”
Comment from 1 Apr 2026 in “Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview” “the 4k token context window and the super hard guardrails”
Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” “The combined (input/output) context window length is 4K.”
Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” Inconsistent, inaccurate answers
“Hugely non-deterministic: repeat queries give vastly different responses.”
Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” “I'm sorry, I don't see a 'Carol Bring' in your contacts”
Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac” “Seems like it struggles as much as a normal person”
Comment from 5 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”
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| ApfelThis page | 41 | 17 | 71% | 5 | — | Approved |
What people said
40 of the 64 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.
“Apfel[0] has exposed it as a CLI”
“I like being able to pipe output into a local LLM to get an explanation of the output.”
“Apfel is a cool project; it's been the only thing tempting me to upgrade to Tahoe”
“Something I grab on a regular basis, especially for doing simple education of folks about the basics of using LLMs”
“Apfel is very useful, thanks for the effort.”
“If you've got a mac, you can use this to play around with it:”
“There's a project called Apfel that wraps it in a CLI.”
“you can install the apfel stuff if you're on a mac and want a quick available onboard cli option”
“No model download necessary”
“local model + tool calling with no cloud dependency is a nice setup”
“I was able to confirm that it actually runs on ANE, I'm impressed.”
“Seems like it struggles as much as a normal person”
“Rust version goofed with lines of comments and code intertwined.”
“I appreciate the project itself! It's just these flashy LLM-generated webpages are really misleading.”
“Hugely non-deterministic: repeat queries give vastly different responses.”
“I'm sorry, I don't see a 'Carol Bring' in your contacts”
“It's absolutely free and open source”
“love the simple website and typography”
“I was able to install it on my older macos 15, but it aborted on execution.”
“Extremely oversold landing page, very marketing heavy for what it is.”
“just the marketing goes hard a bit”
“Apple's model came out on top—best accuracy in 6 out of 10 cases in the backtest.”
“Local AIs are the future in times of limited resources.”
“zero cost and fully local is hard to beat for quick throwaway tasks”
“It's a nice LLM because it seems fairly decent and it loads instantly”
“it being limited to English from what I can tell is quite a downsite for me”
“I like the approach of running everything locally.”
“I like the idea and the clarity to explain the usage”
“They offer it as an option but default it to false!”
“Cool tool but I don't get why these websites make idiotic claims”
“I've been playing with it for some time now I'm impressed.”
“great for shell scripts though (my major use case now)”
“The combined (input/output) context window length is 4K.”
“I'm running Sequoia still and get an error about model not found.”
“the 4k token context window and the super hard guardrails”
“it isn't very good. And the guardrails are hilariously bad.”
“this is real neat. I'll give it a spin.”
“without calling home or downloading extra local models”
“using it in bash scripts that just work without calling home / out or incurring extra costs feels super powerful.”
“Apple Ai on the command line”
Counts come from 1,795,640 Hacker News comments, November 2025 to November 2026. How we count. Report a mistake.