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A Fire Upon the Deep

A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge

by Vernor Vinge

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Shares rank 16 of 179 science fiction novels by recommenders

People recommend this science fiction novel for its ideas about alien intelligence, software and communication, and for being worth rereading.

People recommend this science fiction novel for its ideas about alien intelligence, software and communication, and for being worth rereading.

29 people gave an opinion

recommend it
28
criticize it
1
approval share
97%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 10 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: not recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: recommended
  4. February 2026: recommended
  5. March 2026: recommended
  6. April 2026: recommended
  7. May 2026: recommended
  8. June 2026: recommended
  9. July 2026: recommended
  10. August 2026: recommended
  11. September 2026: recommended
  12. October 2026: recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it carries the badge

  • 28 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 28 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, met.
  • Recommended in 10 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Ideas on software systems and security

    “in the book certain protocols for information communication can not be deterministic so if someone is too smart you get hacked”

    Comment from 11 May 2026 in “How Fast Does Claude, Acting as a User Space IP Stack, Respond to Pings?”

    “If you like sci-fi takes on software systems, check out Vernor Vinge "A Fire upon the deep" and sequels.”

    Comment from 6 May 2026 in “Vibe coding and agentic engineering are getting closer than I'd like”

    “Vernor Vinge hits on pretty much exactly this in A Fire Upon the Deep”

    Comment from 29 Jul 2026 in “Running Kimi K3 on a M1 Mac”
  • Conceptualizes truly alien intelligence

    “I feel this is one of the reasons I liked Fire upon the Deep with the group mind based Tines”

    Comment from 18 Jan 2026 in “Sins of the Children (Adrian Tchaikovsky)”

    “Fire Upon the Deep are really good for conceptualizing truly alien intelligence”

    Comment from 25 Aug 2026 in “Octopus intelligence may be related to never-before-seen mutation”

    “balances the truly alien with the familiar just right”

    Comment from 6 Mar 2026 in “Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account compromise”
  • Admired as a rare, special writer

    “I respect Vinge more and more based on how well he seems to understand human tendencies”

    Comment from 6 Mar 2026 in “Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account compromise”

    “Vinge didn't write much, but what he did write I think is very special indeed.”

    Comment from 29 Sep 2026 in “Ask HN: What are you reading?”

    “not every year gives us a Dune or A Fire Upon the Deep”

    Comment from 16 Jul 2026 in “Book Prizes Don't Work How You Think”
  • Enjoyable to reread again and again

    “It's one of those books I can pull off the shelf every few years and enjoy from beginning to end.”

    Comment from 30 Sep 2026 in “Ask HN: What are you reading?”

    “It's very short and from one of my favorite books.”

    Comment from 5 Mar 2026 in “Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account compromise”

Other science fiction novels people recommend

The four most recommended other science fiction novels, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge compared with 4 alternatives
ProductRecommendCriticizeApprovalMonthsOwnedBadge
Project Hail Maryby Andy Weir1172483%12—Approved
There Is No Antimemetics Divisionby qntm983474%91.5 yrs6 ownersApproved
Blindsightby Peter Watts962778%12—Approved
Duneby Frank Herbert822577%12—Approved
A Fire Upon the Deepby Vernor VingeThis page28197%10—Approved
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What people said

21 of the 29 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“Oooh those are really good!”

RecommendsComment from 30 Sep 2026 in “Ask HN: What are you reading?”

“It's one of those books I can pull off the shelf every few years and enjoy from beginning to end.”

RecommendsComment from 30 Sep 2026 in “Ask HN: What are you reading?”

“Vinge didn't write much, but what he did write I think is very special indeed.”

RecommendsComment from 29 Sep 2026 in “Ask HN: What are you reading?”

“Fire Upon the Deep are really good for conceptualizing truly alien intelligence”

RecommendsComment from 25 Aug 2026 in “Octopus intelligence may be related to never-before-seen mutation”

“Vernor Vinge hits on pretty much exactly this in A Fire Upon the Deep”

RecommendsComment from 29 Jul 2026 in “Running Kimi K3 on a M1 Mac”

“not every year gives us a Dune or A Fire Upon the Deep”

RecommendsComment from 16 Jul 2026 in “Book Prizes Don't Work How You Think”

“I actually thought this made lots of sense.”

RecommendsComment from 4 Jun 2026 in “A Post-Quantum Future for Let's Encrypt”

“Read the first-published one, and if you like it, read the other.”

RecommendsComment from 17 May 2026 in “Accelerando (2005)”

“A Fire Upon the Deep would be a more enjoyable starting place for someone that likes the Culture series”

RecommendsComment from 16 May 2026 in “Accelerando (2005)”

“in the book certain protocols for information communication can not be deterministic so if someone is too smart you get hacked”

RecommendsComment from 11 May 2026 in “How Fast Does Claude, Acting as a User Space IP Stack, Respond to Pings?”

“If you like sci-fi takes on software systems, check out Vernor Vinge "A Fire upon the deep" and sequels.”

RecommendsComment from 6 May 2026 in “Vibe coding and agentic engineering are getting closer than I'd like”

“A Fire Upon The Deep is a fantastic novel for programmers to read”

RecommendsComment from 17 Apr 2026 in “Isaac Asimov: The Last Question”

“Ideas from "World War II on an alien planet around a variable star"”

RecommendsComment from 7 Apr 2026 in “Book Review: There Is No Antimemetics Division”

“I respect Vinge more and more based on how well he seems to understand human tendencies”

RecommendsComment from 6 Mar 2026 in “Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account compromise”

“balances the truly alien with the familiar just right”

RecommendsComment from 6 Mar 2026 in “Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account compromise”

“It's very short and from one of my favorite books.”

RecommendsComment from 5 Mar 2026 in “Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account compromise”

“thank you for the book suggestion - I'm into those kinds of tales”

RecommendsComment from 5 Mar 2026 in “Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account compromise”

“more fun examples of how intra-galactic communication would be labeled, with routes & such”

RecommendsComment from 18 Feb 2026 in “Cosmologically Unique IDs”

“Haha yes, these are all fantastic.”

RecommendsComment from 18 Jan 2026 in “Sins of the Children (Adrian Tchaikovsky)”

“I feel this is one of the reasons I liked Fire upon the Deep with the group mind based Tines”

RecommendsComment from 18 Jan 2026 in “Sins of the Children (Adrian Tchaikovsky)”

“his classic "A Fire Upon the Deep" for another work of fiction”

RecommendsComment from 7 Jan 2026 in “All Worlds End in an AI Singularity”

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