Zope
Shares rank 50 of 63 web frameworks by recommenders
Python web framework people used widely in its day and found educational; critics say it did not scale.
Python web framework people used widely in its day and found educational; critics say it did not scale.
10 people gave an opinion
- recommend it
- 6
- criticize it
- 4
- approval share
- 60%
Recommended in 4 of 13 months
- November 2025: not recommended
- December 2025: recommended
- January 2026: not recommended
- February 2026: not recommended
- March 2026: not recommended
- April 2026: not recommended
- May 2026: recommended
- June 2026: recommended
- July 2026: not recommended
- August 2026: not recommended
- September 2026: not recommended
- October 2026: recommended
- November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)
Why it doesn’t carry the badge
- 6 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, not met.
- 1.5 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
- Recommended in 4 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.
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What people say about it
The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.
Why people recommend it
Each mark is one comment
Was widely used back then
“I used the Python equivalent, Zope, extensively back in the day.”
Comment from 27 Oct 2026 in “Is PHP Running on Your ColdFusion Server? How to Check, and Remove It” “There was a lot of Zope around me.”
Comment from 27 Oct 2026 in “Is PHP Running on Your ColdFusion Server? How to Check, and Remove It”
What people warn about
Each mark is one comment
Poor design choices and failure
“It tried to be cool, made ALL the wrong choices, and died silently with people just moving on.”
Comment from 30 Sep 2026 in “Tcl/Tk 9.1” “which was a total disaster”
Comment from 24 May 2026 in “PHP's Oddities”
Other web frameworks people recommend
The four most recommended other web frameworks, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.
| Product | Recommend | Criticize | Approval | Months | Owned | Badge |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ruby on Rails | 337 | 145 | 70% | 12 | 14 yrs38 owners | Approved |
| Django | 277 | 97 | 74% | 12 | 15 yrs38 owners | Approved |
| Next.js | 127 | 256 | 33% | 12 | 3 yrs6 owners | — |
| Phoenix Framework | 85 | 11 | 89% | 12 | 8 yrs7 owners | Approved |
| ZopeThis page | 6 | 4 | 60% | 4 | — | — |
What people said
9 of the 10 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.
“There was a lot of Zope around me.”
“I used the Python equivalent, Zope, extensively back in the day.”
“It tried to be cool, made ALL the wrong choices, and died silently with people just moving on.”
“Thanks to the Plone crowd, Zope now runs on Python 3 and still deserves some work.”
“But those technologies were magnificent.”
“Kind of a waste of time, but interesting learning experience.”
“which was a total disaster”
“In theory, all nice and dandy, in practice, too much of a fuss.”
“it had its good moments, even bright ideas in some places, too bad that they didn't scale.”
Counts come from 1,795,640 Hacker News comments, November 2025 to November 2026. How we count. Report a mistake.