X11 (X.Org)

“X11 has it's warts, and is very weird. But it is miles ahead in actual usability over it's peers.”

“I like running multi-seat headless sessions on my local LAN hosts for several reasons.”

“X11 used to crash all the time, especially after an update, back when it was being vibrantly developed.”

“the alternative one (Wayland) has nowhere near the level and quality of support and breadth of capabilities as the existing one”

“the lack of deep level accessibility/automation is still a big hurdle when it comes to Wayland”

“Using X forward basically every day but being told it is useless and broken and nobody needs it”

“X was only really useful as a remote terminal in 4MB, to run a local program via X pretty much required 8MB.”

“X11 without a desktop compositor (very important) still provides the least latency of any environment”

“there are some edge cases for X11 with non-compositing window manager where you will get interesting glitches if the window moves”

“X11 with it's focus follows mouse, don't raise on focus, select:middle click paste features provide a far more refined desktop experience”

“fundamentally it's an really outdated design to solve 80s/90s issues over the network in the way you solved it back then”

“The problem with X11 is that it has for a long time exposed too much unrelated functionality like this to the user”

“In X11 I can create an automation tool that works regardless of the underlying WM”

“X11's problems were rooted in the abstractions presented by the X11 core protocol and its extension mechanisms.”

“as long as you run X11, there is no need to think about security because X11 just defeats it all”

“You need a stable display server where you can still open a browser, and that is X11.”

“Even under X11, any app can log keystrokes, read window contents, and inject input into other apps.”

“software developers should target an implementation of whatever missing feature as implemented in X11”

“I'm using X11 every day on my personal machines and don't see a need to switch at this time.”

“i love running x11 too, wayland is still not there yet sadly, still has a few quirks”

“I watch videos all the time on X11. With double buffering enabled, there is no screen tearing.”

“X11 won't handle different scales, and it also won't switch from one to the other without restarting it.”

“with x11 if you go through the steps to get Variable Refresh Rate going and you are dual monitor, it will max the refresh of both to the slowest monitor.”

“if you are into gaming, at least in my experience, x is rn still the more stable solution”

“It's actively maintained by projects like RHEL which still have versions which are supported”

“Works without issue on X11; and I don't even know where to start looking on Wayland.”

“their provenance between X11 itself as well as ICCCM and EMWH had plenty of super dumb ideas and cruft”

“Out of the box I used have more problem with X11 (tearing and font rendering being the most annoyingly common ones)”

“Until Wayland actually has an accesibility story, X is really the only choice.”

“X11 sucked because it baked everything, including multiple outdated kitchen sinks, into a single Xorg monolith”

“X11 could happily run over a year without crash and run all applications I need without issues”

“the reference implementation of X11 is also widely agreed to have some serious problems going forward”

“Wayland also plugs pretty big security holes in X, like the ability to implement global keyloggers.”

“The early freedesktop initiative managed to massively improve XFree86/Xorg without fundamentally throwing out X11.”

“its crazy to me that this anyone can claim X11 can't be off loaded, which its been doing for decades”

“in ancient times X11 performed quite well over the network but modern Linux GUI apps are no longer designed to minimise X11 network traffic”

“It has already been figured out long ago, which is how we have hardware acceleration on X today.”

“Starting a GUI app on any machine on the network and have its windows display on my local screen is vital functionality.”

“Maintenance mode sounds like a good thing, not something that makes me tempted to switch to some less stable alternative.”

“There is absolutely no need to break 40 years of graphic software, or throw away 40 years of accumulated features.”