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The most recommended of 3 r packages

Widely recommended for readable, productive data work in R, especially with dplyr and ggplot2. Critics say it departs from base R and adds redundant functions.

Widely recommended for readable, productive data work in R, especially with dplyr and ggplot2. Critics say it departs from base R and adds redundant functions.

32 people gave an opinion

recommend it
23
criticize it
9
approval share
72%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 6 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: recommended
  2. December 2025: recommended
  3. January 2026: not recommended
  4. February 2026: not recommended
  5. March 2026: not recommended
  6. April 2026: recommended
  7. May 2026: not recommended
  8. June 2026: recommended
  9. July 2026: not recommended
  10. August 2026: recommended
  11. September 2026: recommended
  12. October 2026: not recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it carries the badge

  • 23 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 2.6 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, met.
  • Recommended in 6 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Readable code that reads like intent

    “the verbs literally ARE the operations, so reading the code IS reading the intent”

    Comment from 24 Apr 2026 in “AI Can Write Data Analysis Code, but Can You Trust the Result?”

    “Unlike others, I find tidyverse (especially ggplot2 and dplyr, which reminds me a lot of pandas) to be quite intuitive.”

    Comment from 25 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

    “when used correctly and effectively in the tidyverse, improves the experience of writing and reading code”

    Comment from 26 Nov 2025 in “Python is not a great language for data science”
  • Productive, expressive data manipulation

    “the tidyverse is marvelous. It provides major productivity in organizing and augmenting the data”

    Comment from 25 Nov 2025 in “Python is not a great language for data science”

    “more ergonomic and expressive tidyverse syntax”

    Comment from 3 Sep 2026 in “Pre-Release of Polars 2.0”

    “The data work becomes really easy then”

    Comment from 18 Aug 2026 in “Python Polars Cheatsheet (based on our O'Reilly book)”
  • Coherent ecosystem for stats and ML

    “the tidyverse is still the most coherent and functional ML/stat computing ecosystem I've ever used”

    Comment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

    “They fit smoothly into base R, often filling holes that base R has.”

    Comment from 4 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”

    “a lot of R's strengths are really the tidyverse's”

    Comment from 25 Nov 2025 in “Python is not a great language for data science”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Less readable than base R

    “There has never been anything in tidyverse I couldn't do in base R. Usually a lot cleaner in base R.”

    Comment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

    “transitioning from tidy to base R makes your code less readable than just using base R throughout”

    Comment from 3 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”
  • Hides complexity by making things easy

    “The real problem with this package is that it makes things easy, instead of hard”

    Comment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

    “The tidyverse has you piping and using advanced concepts from the start.”

    Comment from 3 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”

    “the tidyverse is trying to turn R into a user-friendly real-time calculator, rather than a tool for stable, deterministic, and literate data analysis”

    Comment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”
  • Redundant functions and foot guns

    “Some of the tidyverse packages are over kill and contain lots of foot guns.”

    Comment from 3 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”

    “an ever-expanding ecosystem of redundant functions and anti-patterns”

    Comment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

    “it has led to entire cohorts of people producing poor code”

    Comment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”
  • Feels like a separate language

    “whatever wheel reinvention with bizarre semantics that the tidyverse uses”

    Comment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

    “They're basically two languages sitting on top of each other.”

    Comment from 3 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”

    “tidyverse pipes always felt like a hack on top of R”

    Comment from 25 Mar 2026 in “Data Manipulation in Clojure Compared to R and Python”

Other r packages people recommend

The two most recommended other r packages, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

tidyverse compared with 2 alternatives
ProductRecommendCriticizeApprovalMonthsOwnedBadge
tidyverseThis page23972%6—Approved
data.table15288%7—Approved
dplyr130100%6—Approved
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What people said

35 of the 38 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“it's just a simple one-line change”

RecommendsComment from 12 Sep 2026 in “Pandas Should Go Extinct”

“more ergonomic and expressive tidyverse syntax”

RecommendsComment from 3 Sep 2026 in “Pre-Release of Polars 2.0”

“The data work becomes really easy then”

RecommendsComment from 18 Aug 2026 in “Python Polars Cheatsheet (based on our O'Reilly book)”

“Unlike others, I find tidyverse (especially ggplot2 and dplyr, which reminds me a lot of pandas) to be quite intuitive.”

RecommendsComment from 25 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“users have clearly delivered the verdict that it is friendlier than base R”

RecommendsComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“That might be the goal of tidyverse devs, but it hasn’t been the reality since inception.”

CriticizesComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“The real problem with this package is that it makes things easy, instead of hard”

CriticizesComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“There has never been anything in tidyverse I couldn't do in base R. Usually a lot cleaner in base R.”

CriticizesComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“the tidyverse is trying to turn R into a user-friendly real-time calculator, rather than a tool for stable, deterministic, and literate data analysis”

CriticizesComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“whatever wheel reinvention with bizarre semantics that the tidyverse uses”

CriticizesComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“it has led to entire cohorts of people producing poor code”

CriticizesComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“the coyote used tidyverse and the road runner used base R”

CriticizesComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“is not strong evidence that a particular software ecosystem (tidyverse) is flawed”

RecommendsComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“produces gigantic R markdown files with 20 imports to accomplish something that would be shorter”

CriticizesComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“It's certainly quite pleasant to work with...but I would rather use sql for etl”

MixedComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“If R was subset to only the tidyverse 5 years ago then it wouldn't have lost so much ground to Python in nearly all fields.”

RecommendsComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“the tidyverse is still the most coherent and functional ML/stat computing ecosystem I've ever used”

RecommendsComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“an ever-expanding ecosystem of redundant functions and anti-patterns”

CriticizesComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Too many R packages: CRAN is inundated with submissions”

“I used it to illustrate the good readability of tidyverse.”

RecommendsComment from 27 Apr 2026 in “AI Can Write Data Analysis Code, but Can You Trust the Result?”

“the verbs literally ARE the operations, so reading the code IS reading the intent”

RecommendsComment from 24 Apr 2026 in “AI Can Write Data Analysis Code, but Can You Trust the Result?”

“tidyverse pipes always felt like a hack on top of R”

CriticizesComment from 25 Mar 2026 in “Data Manipulation in Clojure Compared to R and Python”

“They fit smoothly into base R, often filling holes that base R has.”

RecommendsComment from 4 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”

“The main tidyverse packages are popular because they are different from base R.”

MixedComment from 3 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”

“Still feel a lot of enterprises and industries looked over its capabilities then.”

RecommendsComment from 3 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”

“Tidyverse is valuable specifically because it's the best at doing what it does”

RecommendsComment from 3 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”

“Some of the tidyverse packages are over kill and contain lots of foot guns.”

CriticizesComment from 3 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”

“The tidyverse has you piping and using advanced concepts from the start.”

CriticizesComment from 3 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”

“They're basically two languages sitting on top of each other.”

CriticizesComment from 3 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”

“transitioning from tidy to base R makes your code less readable than just using base R throughout”

MixedComment from 3 Dec 2025 in “R packages for data science”

“outside bioconductor or the tidyverse in R can be just as unstable”

MixedComment from 2 Dec 2025 in “Python Data Science Handbook”

“funds a lot of development of important packages in the tidyverse”

RecommendsComment from 28 Nov 2025 in “Migrating to Positron, a next-generation data science IDE for Python and R”

“when used correctly and effectively in the tidyverse, improves the experience of writing and reading code”

MixedComment from 26 Nov 2025 in “Python is not a great language for data science”

“the tidyverse is marvelous. It provides major productivity in organizing and augmenting the data”

RecommendsComment from 25 Nov 2025 in “Python is not a great language for data science”

“a lot of R's strengths are really the tidyverse's”

RecommendsComment from 25 Nov 2025 in “Python is not a great language for data science”

“allowing the tidyverse packages to do things like evaluate arguments in the context of a data frame”

RecommendsComment from 25 Nov 2025 in “Python is not a great language for data science”

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