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Ternary Bonsai

Ranked 2 of 4 quantized language models by recommenders

Compact 1.58-bit model people praise for accuracy per byte and fast on-device use. Critics say it hallucinates often and is weak at coding and logic.

Compact 1.58-bit model people praise for accuracy per byte and fast on-device use. Critics say it hallucinates often and is weak at coding and logic.

22 people gave an opinion

recommend it
14
criticize it
8
approval share
64%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 3 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: not recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: not recommended
  4. February 2026: not recommended
  5. March 2026: not recommended
  6. April 2026: recommended
  7. May 2026: recommended
  8. June 2026: not recommended
  9. July 2026: recommended
  10. August 2026: not recommended
  11. September 2026: not recommended
  12. October 2026: not recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 14 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 1.7 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
  • Recommended in 3 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, not met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Strong accuracy for its size

    “Ternary-Bonsai-1.7B achieved 65.1% from 462 MiB”

    Comment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

    “Essentially seems to be a very good quantization of that model”

    Comment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

    “good-per-byte-but-not-in-absolute-terms quantization”

    Comment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”
  • Runs well for on-device AI

    “This is currently the best model for on-device AI and has been used in our three apps.”

    Comment from 16 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

    “it's great progress toward local AI, which I believe will be common in the near future”

    Comment from 11 May 2026 in “Local AI needs to be the norm”

    “Vram usage was consistently at ~7GiB.”

    Comment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”
  • Fast tokens and first response

    “it seems to get higher TPS than most other similarly sized models on my hardware”

    Comment from 14 Jul 2026 in “Bonsai 27B (1-bit LLM): The First 27B-Class Model to Run on a Phone”

    “time to first token is incredibly low”

    Comment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Weak at coding tasks

    “works great for basic conversational tasks and not good for one shot coding tasks”

    Comment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

    “bonsai is basically trash on real agentic coding work”

    Comment from 15 Oct 2026 in “LFM2.5-24B-A2B: Built for fast on-device agents”
  • Benchmarks look cherry-picked

    “Independent testing of prismml suggest quite a capability drop off outside of their cherry picked benchmarks”

    Comment from 28 Jul 2026 in “Neutrino-1 8B”

    “the comparisons read as a bit disingenuous with the other models at 16 bit weights”

    Comment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”
  • Hallucinates answers often

    “much like the bonsai tenary one it hallucinates knowledge quite aggressively”

    Comment from 4 Aug 2026 in “Show HN: Maple-Preview – ternary 20B MoE running at 120 tok/s on a iPhone”

    “hallucinates in pretty much every answer”

    Comment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”
  • Weak logic and literal answers

    “Fails the car wash test (basic logic seems to be weak in general)”

    Comment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

    “This model tends to be annoyingly literal.”

    Comment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

Other quantized language models people recommend

The three most recommended other quantized language models, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

Ternary Bonsai compared with 3 alternatives
ProductRecommendCriticizeApprovalMonthsOwnedBadge
Microsoft BitNet16964%4——
Ternary BonsaiThis page14864%3——
Maple-Preview6186%1——
BitNet b1.58 2B4T5183%4——
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What people said

22 of the 25 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“bonsai is basically trash on real agentic coding work”

CriticizesComment from 15 Oct 2026 in “LFM2.5-24B-A2B: Built for fast on-device agents”

“much more recent, but worse models like 6.7GB on disk size ternary bonsai”

CriticizesComment from 6 Aug 2026 in “AMD acquires Taalas to boost inference performance by etching models in silicon”

“much like the bonsai tenary one it hallucinates knowledge quite aggressively”

CriticizesComment from 4 Aug 2026 in “Show HN: Maple-Preview – ternary 20B MoE running at 120 tok/s on a iPhone”

“I really had high hopes for the larger Ternary Bonsai and it feels like there is scope to improve”

MixedComment from 28 Jul 2026 in “Neutrino-1 8B”

“Independent testing of prismml suggest quite a capability drop off outside of their cherry picked benchmarks”

CriticizesComment from 28 Jul 2026 in “Neutrino-1 8B”

“it seems to get higher TPS than most other similarly sized models on my hardware”

RecommendsComment from 14 Jul 2026 in “Bonsai 27B (1-bit LLM): The First 27B-Class Model to Run on a Phone”

“it's great progress toward local AI, which I believe will be common in the near future”

RecommendsComment from 11 May 2026 in “Local AI needs to be the norm”

“the comparisons read as a bit disingenuous with the other models at 16 bit weights”

MixedComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“good-per-byte-but-not-in-absolute-terms quantization”

MixedComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“time to first token is incredibly low”

MixedComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“Essentially seems to be a very good quantization of that model”

RecommendsComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“works great for basic conversational tasks and not good for one shot coding tasks”

MixedComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“Fails the car wash test (basic logic seems to be weak in general)”

CriticizesComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“hallucinates in pretty much every answer”

CriticizesComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“Vram usage was consistently at ~7GiB.”

RecommendsComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“This model tends to be annoyingly literal.”

CriticizesComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“Wow, if this is true, I am extremely impressed and excited!”

RecommendsComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“Ternary-Bonsai-4B is the accuracy-per-byte winner above 1 GiB.”

RecommendsComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“in accuracy-per-byte, bonsai is the clear winner”

RecommendsComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“Ternary-Bonsai-1.7B achieved 65.1% from 462 MiB”

RecommendsComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“the big advantage of 1.58 bits is there are no multiplications at inference time”

RecommendsComment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

“This is currently the best model for on-device AI and has been used in our three apps.”

RecommendsComment from 16 Apr 2026 in “Ternary Bonsai: Top Intelligence at 1.58 Bits”

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