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Sakana Fugu

Multi-agent model in AI tools

Recommended for multi-model routing that aims for frontier-level results at lower cost. Main caveat: it feels slow and uses up usage limits fast.

Recommended for multi-model routing that aims for frontier-level results at lower cost. Main caveat: it feels slow and uses up usage limits fast.

33 people gave an opinion

recommend it
12
criticize it
21
approval share
36%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 3 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: not recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: not recommended
  4. February 2026: not recommended
  5. March 2026: not recommended
  6. April 2026: not recommended
  7. May 2026: not recommended
  8. June 2026: recommended
  9. July 2026: not recommended
  10. August 2026: recommended
  11. September 2026: recommended
  12. October 2026: not recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 12 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 0.5 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
  • Recommended in 3 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, not met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Multi-model routing yields better results

    “Clever routing systems also seem to indicate frontier or frontier-beating capabilities at reduced cost, such as Fugu.”

    Comment from 6 Aug 2026 in “Beating GPT-5.6 Sol on retrieval with 100x cheaper open models”

    “being able to pick from a panoply of models will actually yield much better results in the long run”

    Comment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”
  • Strong benchmarks and reviews

    “it's a genuine accomplishment to hit those benchmarks and offer a reasonable plan”

    Comment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

    “Beats GPT-5.5 xhigh on complex tasks.”

    Comment from 23 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

    “the reviews were quite strong”

    Comment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Priced like frontier models

    “But it's priced the same as frontier models. Why do I not directly pay for frontier models?”

    Comment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

    “seems super slow and expensive, and everyone i've talked to who tried it gave up”

    Comment from 1 Jul 2026 on Hacker News

    “you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not.”

    Comment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”
  • Underwhelming results for many users

    “Not that impressed with the results I got from it however if I'm being honest.”

    Comment from 27 Jun 2026 in “Show HN: Smart model routing directly in Claude, Codex and Cursor”

    “Missed half the stuff the other half was outdated/ didn't verify.”

    Comment from 27 Jun 2026 in “Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models”

    “Seems kinda underwhelming considering they raised like $400M.”

    Comment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”
  • Feels slow in practice

    “the result was worse than Opus, incredibly slow, and I ended up exhausting the new 5 hour window”

    Comment from 27 Jun 2026 in “Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models”

    “seems super slow and expensive, and everyone i've talked to who tried it gave up”

    Comment from 1 Jul 2026 on Hacker News

    “The 5-hour limit runs out surprisingly fast. Quality is okay but it feels slow”

    Comment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

What people said

35 of the 38 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“it seems to produce results of extremely varying quality”

MixedComment from 17 Sep 2026 on Hacker News

“Clever routing systems also seem to indicate frontier or frontier-beating capabilities at reduced cost, such as Fugu.”

RecommendsComment from 6 Aug 2026 in “Beating GPT-5.6 Sol on retrieval with 100x cheaper open models”

“Fugu is kind of a black box in terms of what model is used for what”

CriticizesComment from 9 Jul 2026 in “Show HN: Foreman, a self-hosted LLM gateway for cost aware model routing”

“seems super slow and expensive, and everyone i've talked to who tried it gave up”

CriticizesComment from 1 Jul 2026 on Hacker News

“I canceled my test subscription in two days.”

CriticizesComment from 29 Jun 2026 in “Micro-Agent: Beat Frontier Models with Collaboration Inside Model API”

“They just use multiple existing SaaS models from OpenAI, Anthropic etc in background”

CriticizesComment from 28 Jun 2026 in “Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models”

“you're paying api markup twice”

CriticizesComment from 28 Jun 2026 in “Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models”

“20$ is not enough to complete a full workflow”

CriticizesComment from 28 Jun 2026 in “Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models”

“I experienced the same exact thing”

CriticizesComment from 27 Jun 2026 in “Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models”

“Missed half the stuff the other half was outdated/ didn't verify.”

CriticizesComment from 27 Jun 2026 in “Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models”

“the result was worse than Opus, incredibly slow, and I ended up exhausting the new 5 hour window”

CriticizesComment from 27 Jun 2026 in “Asian AI startups launch Mythos-like models”

“Not that impressed with the results I got from it however if I'm being honest.”

CriticizesComment from 27 Jun 2026 in “Show HN: Smart model routing directly in Claude, Codex and Cursor”

“It gives me a small army that can break down and slice, dice the problem in different ways”

RecommendsComment from 23 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“Beats GPT-5.5 xhigh on complex tasks.”

RecommendsComment from 23 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“it didn't impress me enough to put more into it”

CriticizesComment from 23 Jun 2026 in “A New Competitor for Fable 5 and Mythos Preview: Sakana's Fugu Ultra Model”

“He makes some very good arguments for them.”

RecommendsComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“a questionably better black box for slower service and more money”

CriticizesComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“it had the same sycophantic tendencies as most LLMs these days”

MixedComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“The 5-hour limit runs out surprisingly fast. Quality is okay but it feels slow”

CriticizesComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“so we put agents in yo agents so you can burn tokens while you burn tokens.”

CriticizesComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“it's a genuine accomplishment to hit those benchmarks and offer a reasonable plan”

RecommendsComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“being able to pick from a panoply of models will actually yield much better results in the long run”

RecommendsComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“perhaps this particular product is not well thought out”

CriticizesComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“the reviews were quite strong”

MixedComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“seems like an easy thing for a frontier lab to make obsolete”

CriticizesComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“I wouldn't personally pay for this service”

MixedComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“But it's priced the same as frontier models. Why do I not directly pay for frontier models?”

CriticizesComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“as they are involved in military contracts”

CriticizesComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“rather than commercial models that are only availble via an API”

CriticizesComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“usage felt more efficient token wise. Switching models every time is annoying.”

MixedComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“They'll be incentivized for your success, not token-maximizing for their investors.”

RecommendsComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not.”

CriticizesComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“I thought sakana.ai was doing cooler stuff than this”

MixedComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“Their research around building a domain specific model is pretty cool”

RecommendsComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

“Seems kinda underwhelming considering they raised like $400M.”

CriticizesComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Sakana Fugu”

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