Ring doorbell

“Ring absolutely is a surveillance tool that can be used without oversight”

“Ring-like cloud cameras can be every bit as bad for privacy as Flock cameras”

“Ring occupies a point pretty far from that.”

“everyone who installed a Ring doorbell camera paid to help set up these kinds of networks”

“it works quite well and has been very useful on many occasions”

“I like just about everything about the device, but I just want to have a normal door chime again.”

“it makes it more likely they'll go elsewhere”

“Ring works alright with just Homebridge + HomePods”

“We have a Ring doorbell that hooks into the actual chime that the old doorbell used, so it still preserves the old doorbell's functionality”

“Cameras stopped being a deterrent when criminals realized there are no consequences when they are caught on camera.”

“I'd bet many others wouldn't if they truly knew what they were signing up for.”

“a video from your Ring doorbell showing some generic young-dude-in-a-baseball-cap-and-a-hoodie taking it away”

“They were probably just working with Ring doorbell to help reunite lost dogs with their families.”

“a default config on your neighbor's ring doorbell and it was gtg”

“Ya'll wanted the cloud, you wanted Ring doorbells, you wanted Alexas”

“I regret it now but a few years back someone had moved into a home, dumped their Ring doorbell”

“I'd be shocked if the Ring doorbells were materially more secure.”

“Ring cameras creep me out and I feel they have a powerful anti-social effect.”

“The Ring example is garbage. You paid for it and it's on your property.”

“Arguably worse because it comes with a convenience / personal security factor.”

“I use mine for basic convenience, like seeing that a package was delivered”

“Ring's doggie tracking system that can also be used to follow people”

“the doorbells provide a lot of value to the user (know who is at the door remotely!)”

“regulate the central service/company out of existence in the case of, say, Ring”

“It does however typically capture some amount of public space which I think is problematic.”

“I ditched them both because I saw the quality of the video degrade slowly over that time”

“There was never a motion alert, and no footage of the culprit was recorded.”

“the company that built it is going to turn my porch into a node in the nationwide Good Citizen network”

“people should not have pointed cameras into public spaces and live streamed everything to the cloud”

“The camera didn't even have an active subscription, yet law enforcement was still able to recover video from Google's systems.”

“Ring (owned by Amazon, who runs a private airgapped AWS region for the CIA onsite at Langley) also works with law enforcement agencies.”

“Cloud connected doorbells must die as well as dragnet surveillance.”

“The ring app also sucks imo and all their hardware is quite slow.”

“yet the footage was still recorded pulled from servers. That's concerning.”

“only have Rings/Nests and other similar spyware because of a combination of fearmongering, aggressive marketing, and pricing subsidized by data collection”

“I guarantee the vast majority of people LOVE this new feature.”

“no subscription means no video uploaded, but it doesn't HAVE to mean that”

“I'm getting fed up with being recorded without consent just because I want to go visit someone.”

“I feel less safe knowing that anyone's doorbell could be tracking me and sending my movements to a third party”

“this heartwarmer is about recruiting more camera feeds, thats why its free”