RCS messaging
Messaging protocol in Phones & tablets
Standard that replaces SMS with group chats and encryption across iPhone and Android. Common caveat: critics say Google controls it and only some clients get its encryption.
Standard that replaces SMS with group chats and encryption across iPhone and Android. Common caveat: critics say Google controls it and only some clients get its encryption.
96 people gave an opinion
- recommend it
- 25
- criticize it
- 71
- approval share
- 26%
Recommended in 8 of 13 months
- November 2025: recommended
- December 2025: recommended
- January 2026: recommended
- February 2026: not recommended
- March 2026: not recommended
- April 2026: recommended
- May 2026: recommended
- June 2026: recommended
- July 2026: not recommended
- August 2026: not recommended
- September 2026: recommended
- October 2026: recommended
- November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)
Why it doesn’t carry the badge
- 25 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
- 0.3 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
- Recommended in 8 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.
The same three rules apply to every product, and the badge can’t be bought. How the badge works
What people say about it
The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.
Why people recommend it
Each mark is one comment
Better than SMS and MMS
“RCS is a modern replacement for SMS/MMS with end-to-end encryption (E2EE) support via MLS.”
Comment from 7 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard” “A bundled, cross platform E2EE protocol is a huge step above SMS and MMS.”
Comment from 6 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard” “It is still a better option than SMS/MMS and providing it is beneficial.”
Comment from 6 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard” - Comment from 7 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard”
- Comment from 20 Nov 2025 in “I just want working RCS messaging”
- Comment from 5 Jun 2026 in “Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux”
- Comment from 6 Jun 2026 in “Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux”
- Comment from 19 Nov 2025 in “I just want working RCS messaging”
End-to-end encryption on many devices
“The point is to access an e2ee protocol bundled by default on many devices, and is cross-platform.”
Comment from 6 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard” “RCS provides properly working group chats and end-to-end encryption with iOS and GMS Android users”
Comment from 7 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard” “RCS is a modern replacement for SMS/MMS with end-to-end encryption (E2EE) support via MLS.”
Comment from 7 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard” - Comment from 6 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard”
Group chats across platforms
“Now, with RCS, you can make a functional group chat across platforms and you don't have to convince anybody to install something new.”
Comment from 6 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard” “RCS provides properly working group chats and end-to-end encryption with iOS and GMS Android users”
Comment from 7 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard”
What people warn about
Each mark is one comment
Google controls the standard
“RCS is technically superior (protocol, transport, security, all of it) but is captured from the start on the technical level by design by the big players”
Comment from 6 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard” “Google added the encryption extensions a full two years before the GSMA put them into the standard so it feels like their new chat app”
Comment from 19 Nov 2025 in “I just want working RCS messaging” “RCS is the same as WhatsApp et al., only that the app you are using doesn't tell you that Google will monitor all your communications”
Comment from 19 Nov 2025 in “I just want working RCS messaging” - Comment from 19 Nov 2025 in “I just want working RCS messaging”
- Comment from 19 Nov 2025 in “I just want working RCS messaging”
- Comment from 21 Jan 2026 in “RCS for Business”
- Comment from 15 Feb 2026 in “Amazon, Google Unwittingly Reveal the Severity of the U.S. Surveillance State”
- Comment from 1 Aug 2026 in “Anti-fraud tools can't keep pace with scammers exploiting cheap internet calling”
Encryption limited to some apps
“A server can whitelist which devices are allowed to connect to it. And of course Google uses this, allowing only Google-certified devices and Apple devices.”
Comment from 12 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS' rewritten Messages app is released” “in practice it's pretty much 100% "only the carrier app or Google/Samsung messages has access to literally any of it"”
Comment from 10 Nov 2025 in “Ask HN: What Are You Working On? (Nov 2025)” “Google has deployed a proprietary encryption layer on top but refuses to allow other clients access.”
Comment from 15 Feb 2026 in “Amazon, Google Unwittingly Reveal the Severity of the U.S. Surveillance State” - Comment from 1 Aug 2026 in “Anti-fraud tools can't keep pace with scammers exploiting cheap internet calling”
Standard shaped by big players
“It just lacked E2EE for the longest time, which makes sense when you consider that the police and secret service have their tendrils in the standards body”
Comment from 19 Nov 2025 in “I just want working RCS messaging” “RCS is technically superior (protocol, transport, security, all of it) but is captured from the start on the technical level by design by the big players”
Comment from 6 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard” “Google added the encryption extensions a full two years before the GSMA put them into the standard so it feels like their new chat app”
Comment from 19 Nov 2025 in “I just want working RCS messaging”
What people said
40 of the 124 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.
“Love RCS, but this, like iMessage, is a closed system.”
“Hence SMS, its upgrade, RCS, and the many private protocols.”
“A server can whitelist which devices are allowed to connect to it. And of course Google uses this, allowing only Google-certified devices and Apple devices.”
“RCS is usually only advised as a fallback messenger”
“mostly better than still another widely used alternative (SMS/MMS)”
“RCS should not be the default imho, because lazy people gonna be lazy”
“RCS is a modern replacement for SMS/MMS with end-to-end encryption (E2EE) support via MLS.”
“RCS provides properly working group chats and end-to-end encryption with iOS and GMS Android users”
“Now, with RCS, you can make a functional group chat across platforms and you don't have to convince anybody to install something new.”
“The point is to access an e2ee protocol bundled by default on many devices, and is cross-platform.”
“It is still a better option than SMS/MMS and providing it is beneficial.”
“A bundled, cross platform E2EE protocol is a huge step above SMS and MMS.”
“RCS is technically superior (protocol, transport, security, all of it) but is captured from the start on the technical level by design by the big players”
“Secure chat alternatives tend to be proprietary (e.g., RCS, effectively specific to Apple and Google”
“RCS is the improved replacement for SMS”
“It's better than SMS and is the new industry standard.”
“RCS has most of the features of iMessage, including tapbacks and large attachments.”
“I always liked the locking feature, it avoided lots of issues”
“Which fit better than cvs because it provides a history per file.”
“It's certainly not my preferred option, but my collaborator likes it, and it's not too annoying for me to use.”
“RCS as a tool had virtues over SVN and CVS”
“Google has deployed a proprietary encryption layer on top but refuses to allow other clients access.”
“check out this page with more info on how to get started with RCS”
“Twilio, Bandwidth etc. are gatekept by Google and are basically just a middleman reselling Google's product.”
“I did just manage to dig up a source that says these things are somewhat implemented in iOS 18”
“I get vastly less spam on RCS than I do on SMS or iMessage.”
“iMessage and RCS have some very different affordances”
“RCS is good enough... as a fallback protocol.”
“RCS is good enough... as a fallback protocol”
“once I checked out an item, no one could check in their changes unless they contacted me”
“RCS isn't perfect but it fixed so many problems which SMS had”
“generally included in the plan you pay anyway for data access”
“RCS is the same as WhatsApp et al., only that the app you are using doesn't tell you that Google will monitor all your communications”
“Group chats and just about everything else messaging clients have supported for a decade are part of the Universal Profile”
“It just lacked E2EE for the longest time, which makes sense when you consider that the police and secret service have their tendrils in the standards body”
“RCS is a great replacement for SMS/MMS”
“Why hand all of your messaging communications over to Google, when they've got such a consistent history of being hostile?”
“Google added the encryption extensions a full two years before the GSMA put them into the standard so it feels like their new chat app”
“It's Google's way to openwash their new chat app into a "standard" where 100% of the data runs through their servers”
“in practice it's pretty much 100% "only the carrier app or Google/Samsung messages has access to literally any of it"”
Counts come from 1,795,640 Hacker News comments, November 2025 to November 2026. How we count. Report a mistake.