Proton Meet

“the ones I use (mail, calendar and meet) definitely work on Firefox for me.”

“claims to be privacy-focused and majority owned by a nonprofit foundation”

“Proton including that part about geopolitical instability implies that Meet is does not fall under the USA's CLOUD Act - that would be wrong.”

“Proton lost me after they started posting rage-bait ads on Facebook”

“Not sure i understand the point.... any p2p webrtc call in encrypted e2e.”

“The main thing stopping me from using Proton Meet is I don't like that the booking pages that come with Proton Calendar only show in 24-hour time.”

“recently with Proton meet and its controversy, my trust on proton has shifted a bit too”

“Proton Meet, which also proved to work pretty well.”

“I was really waiting for this!”

“those who do not own a domain name should buy one an run their own Matrix/XMPP server”

“performs well based on personal usage”

“independent Controller vs Processor changes the privacy story significantly”

“LiveKit can respond to a US CLOUD Act request for those records without notifying Proton.”

“Proton Meet relying on a bunch of US infrastructure is something they should call out themselves loudly when they advertise it”

“STARK contrast between their messaging and their actual culpability”

“Especially now we have Proton Meet, I can take some ownership over videocalls in Teams and Google Meet finally.”

“there is no point in accusing Proton of anything”

“that's why they have independent audits”

“They also admit to scanning all mail to and from non-Proton accounts "for spam".”

“a company that prides itself on encryption could figure out a way to hash it too”

“Proton offers that, full stop.”

“If they advertise that they will protect their users privacy, then I don't see how complying with government snooping is an excuse.”

“they try to appear transparent but a lot of what they've done especially with proton meet seems to sometimes even be misleading”

“Actually, it creates an incompatibility, period.”

“regurgitating facts that are supposed to be gotchas but have tons of nuance if you dig”

“Yes they do (the storage of your emails on their servers, that is)”

“being deceptive is not ok, regardless of whether “the status quo is worse””

“The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked.”

“they control the encryption keys or atleast certainly have the ability to change”

“the proton claim that their new service is private from the US government data acquisition, including inability to access call metadata, is a lie”

“it doesn't paste a clear picture of transparency or trust”

“Proton is definitely a lot more private than, say, Google. But, as always, you'll have to trust the party delivering the binaries you run.”

“I'm still more annoyed about the 90 day cookie - that was just rude”

“Especially questionable choice by Proton not to opt for the self-hosted option”

“Works really well, clean interface, e2ee I can trust.”

“Proton has never stated they wouldn’t comply with the law.”

“"Confidential" until the feds decide that your meeting is a threat to a wanna be dictator, then everyone is invited to the party.”

“have hosted a few meetings now with this and now I am so relieved”

“my customer was able to join without an account and it was all in browser”

“useless unless non-proton members can use it and its browser native”