PinePhone

“they are under the battery cover and you are strongly recommended to only flip them while the phone is off”

“PINE64 provides no way for an ordinary user to register a bug report about the hardware in the PinePhone.”

“I held off on buying the PPP for years waiting for those issues to be resolved”

“I see the flicker on my PinePhone's screen. I usually see it for a minute or two after I turn on the phone”

“There were several pinephone HW revisions that fixed HW issues based on direct developer feedback.”

“Pinephone Pro has almost full kernel support, multiple bootloaders”

“It is forever in beta, because the company develops no software at all, only provides the hardware.”

“It's slow but the feeling of owning your hardware is well worth it.”

“Pinephone Pro had a very small developer community (of volunteers) and thus quite undeveloped software.”

“tons of hardware was non-functional since all they did was piece shit together and not support software in any way”

“Yeah, I've noticed details on the PPP. In their defense, it's supposed to be the explorer edition, not the final product.”

“They deliver beyond that too, with support for Alt-DP over USB-C for instance, open schematics”

“It has 3GB of RAM and needs to be charged daily. It's barely enough for my use case”

“rkisp1 driver that drives ISP on RK3399 on Pinephone Pro is available upstream in fully supported manner”

“All the things that make the PinePhone so painfully slow (GPU performance, RAM bandwidth, eMMC speed, small caches)”

“It is underpowered, but at least it doesn't have to waste its resources on rendering ads.”

“My PinePhone runs postmarketOS and can technically run every modern Linux desktop "app".”

“Have you considered using a GNU/Linux phone (Librem 5 or Pinephone)?”

“these could be fantastic but it seems the software ecosystem is quite slow to develop”

“I did buy the PinePhone Braveheart edition a few years ago, but never did much with it”

“With good software, Pinephone can smoothly play videos, show map directions and browse the web with NoScript”

“Such phones also exist today. Have a look at Librem 5 and Pinephone.”

“The Pine Phone is cool, but the slide out keyboard on the N900/N810 was a big selling point for me.”

“the phone's hardware is just far too shit for daily driving”

“It's the most open, pretty sure... What other company is selling smartphones with schematics, datasheets, and ICs”

“We dumped all software development and support on the foss community.”

“I can run my everyday software stack (Emacs + Firefox + Dino) on my 3 GB RAM Pinephone.”

“PinePhone still works fine, but they recently announced that it's unlikely that we see a new version”

“a phone which cannot protect any private calls over a functioning phone that has real protection”

“With your Librem/PinePhone, you cannot even reasonably expect your calls with end-to-end encrypted apps like Signal and Element to be protected.”

“no commercial or state organization with an elevated risk profile would trust their data to a PinePhone as it stands”

“the device and its software is just completely lacking in security to any real degree”

“microphone cutoff switch doesn't actually cut off the microphone”

“Their most advanced phone is based on a >10 year old SoC, that wasn't even that good when it was first released.”

“I guess something with open schematics (Librem 5, Pinephone) should be better”

“they have a real desktop mode with desktop apps, not mobile apps on a large screen”

“spreading the word about true alternatives existing today, Librem 5 and Pinephone”

“I love the experience on the Pinephone, because I can use the same stack as on desktop.”

“I would not trust any of these. They are a security disaster, lacking even basic features for securing your device against tampering and hacking.”

“You can escape the duopoly by using a GNI/Linux phone, Librem 5 or Pinephone”