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OpenJev

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Fast, cheap structured-output model that cannot emit tokens outside a given set. Critics doubt it differs from other small LLMs, and the naming is confusing.

Fast, cheap structured-output model that cannot emit tokens outside a given set. Critics doubt it differs from other small LLMs, and the naming is confusing.

47 people gave an opinion

recommend it
21
criticize it
26
approval share
45%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 1 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: not recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: not recommended
  4. February 2026: not recommended
  5. March 2026: not recommended
  6. April 2026: not recommended
  7. May 2026: not recommended
  8. June 2026: not recommended
  9. July 2026: not recommended
  10. August 2026: not recommended
  11. September 2026: recommended
  12. October 2026: not recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 21 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 0.8 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
  • Recommended in 1 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, not met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Fast, inexpensive answers

    “the greatest innovation are its speed and that it is guaranteed to NOT generate a token from a given set of tokens”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “Because Jev answers so quickly and inexpensively, it's a likely replacement for complex, best-effort functions”

    Comment from 19 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “What’s novel is how fast and cheap Jev is while maintaining quality.”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”
  • Very low cost per answer

    “In Jev output tokens are straight up free because it's not doing text token generations.”

    Comment from 19 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “their demos are pretty good, their prices are extremely low compared to alternatives”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “Anything you can do in Jev can be done with an LLM at much greater cost and latency.”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”
  • Output limited to allowed tokens

    “the greatest innovation are its speed and that it is guaranteed to NOT generate a token from a given set of tokens”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “This is a great evolution in the right direction compared to LLM + pydantic and temperature 0.”

    Comment from 19 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “it's faster, cheaper, smart structured output.”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”
  • Clear site with no clutter

    “Clear and to the point. Not even a cookie popup”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “This site is several levels above that.”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Confusing Jev naming and copies

    “I think the "Jev" naming is confusing (and it could be legally dangerous).”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “These jev-copy projects are all vibecoded, and only mimic the shape of output.”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “This has no relation to Jev, other than that it makes fun of Jev”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”
  • Unclear difference from other LLMs

    “I am not really convinced on how it's different than any other llm that execute small context within 100ms.”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “So I don't see the advantage to their approach until you're up beyond 6 or 7 questions?”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “it's an AI generated webpage that uses small LLM models to produce structured output”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”
  • Wrong answers in some tests

    “It picked always the third with an 80% confidence, while the answer should have been 1.”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “Weird, I tried it and Jev gave me 16-18% for each face of the die.”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “it scored "Foo" at 98% percent. Why not 0% for both?”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”
  • Slow or broken in some browsers

    “Works in Firefox for me, but much much slower than Chrome.”

    Comment from 19 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

    “Doesn't work for me on iPad Pro: Loading… or it is just incredible slow”

    Comment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

Other decision models people recommend

The four most recommended other decision models, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

OpenJev compared with 4 alternatives
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Jev by Typesafe AI39217070%2——
Laya442663%2——
OpenJevThis page212645%1——
Cloudflare Clef211362%2——
Typesafe AI161355%2——
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What people said

40 of the 51 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“see these links for better/more complete open implementations of Jev”

RecommendsComment from 23 Sep 2026 in “Jev in 25 Lines of Python”

“In Jev output tokens are straight up free because it's not doing text token generations.”

RecommendsComment from 19 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“you come up with crap that goes the opposite direction”

CriticizesComment from 19 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“the most interesting to me so far is razorback16/openjev using DiffusionGemma”

RecommendsComment from 19 Sep 2026 in “I built non-autoregressive decision models with RL a year ago”

“Works in Firefox for me, but much much slower than Chrome.”

MixedComment from 19 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“This is a great evolution in the right direction compared to LLM + pydantic and temperature 0.”

RecommendsComment from 19 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“Because Jev answers so quickly and inexpensively, it's a likely replacement for complex, best-effort functions”

RecommendsComment from 19 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“There is an "Unsloppify site" button which makes it a bit better.”

MixedComment from 19 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“So I don't see the advantage to their approach until you're up beyond 6 or 7 questions?”

MixedComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“messes with the layout enough that you can't actually toggle it without scrolling”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“limited to specific types of use cases”

MixedComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“the unsloppified version looks exactly as vibe coded as the regular one”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“Nasty little site, between that and pretending LLMs are the same as Jev.”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“I am not really convinced on how it's different than any other llm that execute small context within 100ms.”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“the greatest innovation are its speed and that it is guaranteed to NOT generate a token from a given set of tokens”

RecommendsComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“it's an AI generated webpage that uses small LLM models to produce structured output”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“This isn't the same thing, and just riding on its name”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“I'm using it and find their claims credible but they deserve broader scrutiny.”

MixedComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“It's working, providing results and not ugly code.”

RecommendsComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“This has no relation to Jev, other than that it makes fun of Jev”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“Weird, I tried it and Jev gave me 16-18% for each face of the die.”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“a bit of a hack (a good one though)”

MixedComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“ran a test involving ~250M tokens, something we measure went from ~60% to >80% success (with almost no tuning)”

RecommendsComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“there’s an “un-slop site” button that does absolutely nothing to un-sloppify the site”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“Anything you can do in Jev can be done with an LLM at much greater cost and latency.”

RecommendsComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“Doesn't work for me on iPad Pro: Loading… or it is just incredible slow”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“What’s novel is how fast and cheap Jev is while maintaining quality.”

RecommendsComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“These jev-copy projects are all vibecoded, and only mimic the shape of output.”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“their demos are pretty good, their prices are extremely low compared to alternatives”

RecommendsComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“I think the "Jev" naming is confusing (and it could be legally dangerous).”

MixedComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“OpenJev then classifies it as 100% legitimate.”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“This site is several levels above that.”

RecommendsComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“it's faster, cheaper, smart structured output.”

RecommendsComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“It's overly automated and repetitive in its styling.”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“Clear and to the point. Not even a cookie popup”

RecommendsComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“I don't understand how this is different from oai "structured output"”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“It picked always the third with an 80% confidence, while the answer should have been 1.”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“it scored "Foo" at 98% percent. Why not 0% for both?”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“I think that's not proper to have Jev on the name”

CriticizesComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

“there will be so many usecases, applications and even new jobs out of this”

RecommendsComment from 18 Sep 2026 in “OpenJev”

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