# Nativ 7 Hacker News commenters recommended Nativ and 9 criticized it, November 2025 to November 2026. It was recommended in 2 of 13 months. **Verdict:** A Mac app for running open models locally, written mostly in Swift with MLX support. Critics say the website reads as slop and the server often fails to start or connect. ## Why people recommend it - Mostly Swift, feels refined (2 comments): "Possibly vibe-coded landing page notwithstanding, the app is mostly written in Swift language." ([source](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48984710)) "the Swift makes it feel much more refined even if it's not yet as feature rich" ([source](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48985482)) ## What people warn about - Server fails to start or connect (2 comments): "it responded to all input in the chat with Could not connect to the server." ([source](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49011927)) "The server wont start for me." ([source](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48987560)) - Website full of slop and marketing (3 comments): "remove all slop and fluff from the website such as "Everything you need."" ([source](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48983839)) "Website if full of overflow bugs. It's pure slop." ([source](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48984453)) "I really don't like the marketing texts." ([source](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48991620)) - Only a wrapper around MLX (2 comments): "its a wrapper around mlx, so thats gonna be the portability bottleneck" ([source](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48987094)) "this does not, in fact, run the leading/top models locally on your Mac" ([source](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48993958)) ## Alternatives hackers recommend - [llama.cpp](https://hackerapproved.com/p/llama-cpp.md): 471 recommend - [Ollama](https://hackerapproved.com/p/ollama.md): 350 recommend - [LM Studio](https://hackerapproved.com/p/lm-studio.md): 217 recommend - [DS4 by antirez](https://hackerapproved.com/p/ds4.md): 109 recommend - [Unsloth Studio](https://hackerapproved.com/p/unsloth.md): 94 recommend ## Cite as Hacker Approved, "Nativ", https://hackerapproved.com/p/nativ/ (counts from 1,795,640 Hacker News comments, November 2025 to November 2026).