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Muse Wonder

Ranked 35 of 72 language models by recommenders

People recommend it for near-frontier performance and strong early results, especially for data analytics. Critics say it trails top frontier models and burns usage quotas quickly.

People recommend it for near-frontier performance and strong early results, especially for data analytics. Critics say it trails top frontier models and burns usage quotas quickly.

40 people gave an opinion

recommend it
22
criticize it
18
approval share
55%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 1 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: not recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: not recommended
  4. February 2026: not recommended
  5. March 2026: not recommended
  6. April 2026: not recommended
  7. May 2026: not recommended
  8. June 2026: not recommended
  9. July 2026: not recommended
  10. August 2026: not recommended
  11. September 2026: not recommended
  12. October 2026: recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 22 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 1.2 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
  • Recommended in 1 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, not met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Near top frontier model performance

    “Awesome model. Tested it for data analytics and found it's in the class of Opus 5.5 in terms of performance and cost.”

    Comment from 14 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

    “2nd place model on aa according to them, losing only to opus 5.5 is really really not bad”

    Comment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

    “for certain tasks, this is the best model in the world”

    Comment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”
  • Positive first impressions and results

    “I find it really compelling and with this new incredibly beefy model it will be even better.”

    Comment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

    “Muse exceeded expectations out of the gate, and still does.”

    Comment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

    “by all accounts I've seen it's actually a good model”

    Comment from 23 Oct 2026 in “Kimi K3.1 Pro and K3.1 Pro Highspeed”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Behind top frontier models

    “while Muse is an impressive jump from behind it's still not quite at the frontier either IMO”

    Comment from 23 Oct 2026 in “Kimi K3.1 Pro and K3.1 Pro Highspeed”

    “Well, my first impression is that it's still a step below Astra/Opus5.5/Fable here.”

    Comment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

    “that model does not trade blows with the best frontier models by a longshot”

    Comment from 28 Oct 2026 in “Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index v5”
  • Uses up quotas quickly

    “Two somewhat small prompts with Muse Wonder Max-contributor used 4% of my weekly quota and I quickly switched back”

    Comment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

    “noting just how fast Muse Wonder uses up their quotas”

    Comment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”
  • Privacy and trust concerns

    “they expose your usage of muse to your instagram mutuals without consent”

    Comment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

    “no company is less deserving of the sort of trust using Muse requires”

    Comment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

Other language models people recommend

The four most recommended other language models, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

Muse Wonder compared with 4 alternatives
ProductRecommendCriticizeApprovalMonthsOwnedBadge
Claude Opus3,3312,74655%134 mo156 owners—
OpenAI GPT1,20598755%136 mo47 owners—
Claude Sonnet85458659%136 mo46 owners—
DeepSeek V4 Flash82822379%81 mo24 ownersApproved
Muse WonderThis page221855%1——
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What people said

35 of the 44 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“argon and muse wonder full are both a full tier below opus/sol”

CriticizesComment from 28 Oct 2026 in “Gemini 4 Carbon”

“that model does not trade blows with the best frontier models by a longshot”

CriticizesComment from 28 Oct 2026 in “Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index v5”

“Billions down, but no sign of cashflow positive operations.”

CriticizesComment from 27 Oct 2026 in “A $300B 'Debt Wall' Is Looming over Private-Equity Backed Companies”

“They require way too much effort to get things working.”

CriticizesComment from 24 Oct 2026 in “Kimi K3.1 Pro and K3.1 Pro Highspeed”

“having Muse Wonder in the top three makes no sense to me”

CriticizesComment from 23 Oct 2026 in “Kimi K3.1 scores 55 on Artificial Analysis, placed on the Pareto line”

“by all accounts I've seen it's actually a good model”

RecommendsComment from 23 Oct 2026 in “Kimi K3.1 Pro and K3.1 Pro Highspeed”

“It goes neck and neck with Opus 5.”

MixedComment from 23 Oct 2026 in “Kimi K3.1 Pro and K3.1 Pro Highspeed”

“while Muse is an impressive jump from behind it's still not quite at the frontier either IMO”

MixedComment from 23 Oct 2026 in “Kimi K3.1 Pro and K3.1 Pro Highspeed”

“there is no way in hell it's better in practice than either Astra or Fable”

CriticizesComment from 23 Oct 2026 in “Kimi K3.1 Pro and K3.1 Pro Highspeed”

“their insights are very complementary”

RecommendsComment from 23 Oct 2026 in “LLMs are making formal software verification feasible at a much larger scale”

“Wonder makes less economic sense.”

CriticizesComment from 17 Oct 2026 in “DeepSeek-v4.1-Flash-1017”

“Awesome model. Tested it for data analytics and found it's in the class of Opus 5.5 in terms of performance and cost.”

RecommendsComment from 14 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“$20 per M token make a pelican hard digest.”

CriticizesComment from 13 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“no company is less deserving of the sort of trust using Muse requires”

CriticizesComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“Muse exceeded expectations out of the gate, and still does.”

RecommendsComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“I have no doubt at all that Muse will turn out as great as the other product space Meta pioneered”

CriticizesComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“noting just how fast Muse Wonder uses up their quotas”

CriticizesComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“Well, my first impression is that it's still a step below Astra/Opus5.5/Fable here.”

MixedComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“Muse Wonder isn't much better than Muse Spark 1.3”

CriticizesComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“they expose your usage of muse to your instagram mutuals without consent”

CriticizesComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“Two somewhat small prompts with Muse Wonder Max-contributor used 4% of my weekly quota and I quickly switched back”

CriticizesComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“for certain tasks, this is the best model in the world”

RecommendsComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“Some pretty decent pelicans”

RecommendsComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“still an entire generation behind in real-world performance”

CriticizesComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“It's much worse than Opus 5.5.”

CriticizesComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“Looks good, and at least it is available”

RecommendsComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“200% Sol 6.1 pricing for Luna performance.”

CriticizesComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“it generated a pretty ok result for my prompt”

MixedComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“Frontier lasts weeks, inference is a commodity.”

CriticizesComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“They added fancy annimations and effects to this specific webpage, which are unnecessary and distracting”

CriticizesComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“I find it really compelling and with this new incredibly beefy model it will be even better.”

RecommendsComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“This really does look compelling, but it would be very nice if they wouldn't test all of the stuff on Max!”

MixedComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“impressive benchmark numbers… now how to actually use this without Zucking up my machine is a consideration.”

MixedComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“2nd place model on aa according to them, losing only to opus 5.5 is really really not bad”

RecommendsComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Muse Wonder”

“When it was video of a chef, saying words like "flavor" with great enthusiasm, I found it hard to stomach.”

CriticizesComment from 27 Jul 2026 in “Ask HN: What do you watch during lunch or dinner, if you're by yourself?”

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