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Microsoft Visual C++ compiler (MSVC)

Shares rank 5 of 18 c compilers by recommenders

Recommended for its mature ecosystem, steady standards progress and easy toolchain install. Critics often cite a rough C compiler and incomplete or buggy standards conformance.

Recommended for its mature ecosystem, steady standards progress and easy toolchain install. Critics often cite a rough C compiler and incomplete or buggy standards conformance.

49 people gave an opinion

recommend it
20
criticize it
29
approval share
41%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 9 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: recommended
  2. December 2025: recommended
  3. January 2026: recommended
  4. February 2026: recommended
  5. March 2026: recommended
  6. April 2026: not recommended
  7. May 2026: recommended
  8. June 2026: recommended
  9. July 2026: not recommended
  10. August 2026: recommended
  11. September 2026: not recommended
  12. October 2026: recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 20 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 0.6 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
  • Recommended in 9 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Steadily improving standards support

    “I am so happy that MSVC added 128 bit integers to their standard library”

    Comment from 2 Feb 2026 in “Building Your Own Efficient uint128 in C++”

    “Use the new standards-conformant preprocessor with `/Zc:preprocessor`”

    Comment from 26 May 2026 in “C extensions, portability, and alternative compilers”

    “even MSVC has shaped up a bit”

    Comment from 2 Mar 2026 in “Why does C have the best file API”
  • Mature ecosystem and normal tooling

    “Small enough that it's basically nothing, downloads in a couple of seconds over 56k dialup, and you get to use normal tooling.”

    Comment from 25 Aug 2026 in “HelloAssembly: The smallest possible complete Windows application (2021)”

    “One thing I will give to them is the MSVC ecosystem.”

    Comment from 21 Mar 2026 in “Our Commitment to Windows Quality”
  • Quick, small toolchain install

    “Small enough that it's basically nothing, downloads in a couple of seconds over 56k dialup, and you get to use normal tooling.”

    Comment from 25 Aug 2026 in “HelloAssembly: The smallest possible complete Windows application (2021)”

    “Portable toolchain install for MSVC + WinSDK took about 30 seconds to download. Very easy.”

    Comment from 3 May 2026 in “Windows API Is Successful Cross-Platform API”
  • Good optimization output

    “It has been doing lto (aka ltcg) for a very long time at reasonably good throughput.”

    Comment from 10 Oct 2026 in “Communication Between the Compiler, the Build System, and Beyond”

    “I find MSVC and especially ICC output to be quite decent”

    Comment from 25 Dec 2025 in “When Compilers Surprise You”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Incomplete or buggy standards conformance

    “minus atomics and aligned memory allocators (still between experimental or not going to happen)”

    Comment from 17 Nov 2025 in “Giving C a superpower: custom header file (safe_c.h)”

    “MSVC wouldn't compile without adding /std:c++17, because of course it defaults to earlier.”

    Comment from 9 Jun 2026 in “The beauty and simplicity of the good old C-style void* in C++”

    “MSVC is quite a bad benchmark as far as C (not C++) standards conformance goes”

    Comment from 31 May 2026 in “wolfSSL releases a new product; wolfCOSE a zero alloc C embbedded COSE stack”
  • Slow debug builds and heavy install

    “its Edit & Continue functionality makes debug builds unbearably slow, but at least it doesn't work”

    Comment from 14 Jan 2026 in “Is Rust faster than C?”

    “my eyes water when I install MSVC (and that's usually just for the linker!)”

    Comment from 7 Feb 2026 in “Tiny C Compiler”
  • C compiler is rough

    “MSVC’s C compiler is rough, but pretty much necessary for actual cross platform”

    Comment from 17 Nov 2025 in “Giving C a superpower: custom header file (safe_c.h)”

    “The msvc arm was pretty odd when we used it in ~2003. We did not trust it at all.”

    Comment from 3 Dec 2025 in “You can't fool the optimizer”

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The four most recommended other c compilers, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

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Tiny C Compiler (TCC)22388%9—Approved
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What people said

40 of the 59 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“how MSVC and clang-tidy have struggled to achieve the Core Guidelines ideas for lifetimes”

MixedComment from 16 Oct 2026 in “C++26 Contracts: Introduction to Preconditions and Postconditions”

“It has been doing lto (aka ltcg) for a very long time at reasonably good throughput.”

RecommendsComment from 10 Oct 2026 in “Communication Between the Compiler, the Build System, and Beyond”

“Some compilers are better than others (Clang>MSVC for example)”

CriticizesComment from 27 Sep 2026 in “Writing Efficient C++ Code (2013)”

“Small enough that it's basically nothing, downloads in a couple of seconds over 56k dialup, and you get to use normal tooling.”

RecommendsComment from 25 Aug 2026 in “HelloAssembly: The smallest possible complete Windows application (2021)”

“They officially saw no need for C support going forward.”

MixedComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Tail-call optimization in C is relatively recent”

“They don’t really seem to care much about regular C support”

CriticizesComment from 10 Aug 2026 in “Tail-call optimization in C is relatively recent”

“numerous instances of new releases of MSVC breaking GSL compilation”

CriticizesComment from 3 Aug 2026 in “C++ float-to-int conversion can be undefined behavior”

“Current C toolchains including MSVC strongly ties OS with the C's internal types”

CriticizesComment from 22 Jun 2026 in “Is it time for a new Embedded Linux build system?”

“has been a neverending source of confusion since at least the 1990s”

CriticizesComment from 21 Jun 2026 in “Linux Eliminates the Strncpy API After Six Years of Work, 360 Patches”

“That's purely msvc picking a wrong block size and being stuck with it.”

CriticizesComment from 13 Jun 2026 in “Orthodox C++”

“MSVC has stabilised the ABI since VS 2015, we are on VS 2026 now.”

MixedComment from 9 Jun 2026 in “The beauty and simplicity of the good old C-style void* in C++”

“MSVC wouldn't compile without adding /std:c++17, because of course it defaults to earlier.”

CriticizesComment from 9 Jun 2026 in “The beauty and simplicity of the good old C-style void* in C++”

“MSVC is quite a bad benchmark as far as C (not C++) standards conformance goes”

CriticizesComment from 31 May 2026 in “wolfSSL releases a new product; wolfCOSE a zero alloc C embbedded COSE stack”

“Use the new standards-conformant preprocessor with `/Zc:preprocessor`”

RecommendsComment from 26 May 2026 in “C extensions, portability, and alternative compilers”

“Luckily they've fixed it very fast.”

MixedComment from 7 May 2026 in “Nobody Reviews Compiler Output”

“Portable toolchain install for MSVC + WinSDK took about 30 seconds to download. Very easy.”

RecommendsComment from 3 May 2026 in “Windows API Is Successful Cross-Platform API”

“Funny, I have the same feelings after 5 seconds of using MSVC”

CriticizesComment from 3 May 2026 in “Windows API Is Successful Cross-Platform API”

“MSVC doesn't compile a secret master-password into your software”

MixedComment from 30 Mar 2026 in “Copilot edited an ad into my PR”

“One thing I will give to them is the MSVC ecosystem.”

RecommendsComment from 21 Mar 2026 in “Our Commitment to Windows Quality”

“refuse to break ABI and have done so for over a decade”

CriticizesComment from 16 Mar 2026 in “C++26: The Oxford Variadic Comma”

“MSVC was quite bad at optimising and inlining away to the expression trees”

CriticizesComment from 8 Mar 2026 in “Lisp-style C++ template meta programming”

“even MSVC has shaped up a bit”

MixedComment from 2 Mar 2026 in “Why does C have the best file API”

“It doesn't affect other compilers like MSVC”

RecommendsComment from 19 Feb 2026 in “What every compiler writer should know about programmers (Anton Ertl, 2015) [pdf]”

“why bother using stuff that forces you into MSVC hell lol?”

CriticizesComment from 15 Feb 2026 in “I Fixed Windows Native Development”

“my eyes water when I install MSVC (and that's usually just for the linker!)”

CriticizesComment from 7 Feb 2026 in “Tiny C Compiler”

“it absolutely had bugs, sometimes in handling the language spec correctly”

CriticizesComment from 6 Feb 2026 in “My AI Adoption Journey”

“I am so happy that MSVC added 128 bit integers to their standard library”

RecommendsComment from 2 Feb 2026 in “Building Your Own Efficient uint128 in C++”

“its Edit & Continue functionality makes debug builds unbearably slow, but at least it doesn't work”

CriticizesComment from 14 Jan 2026 in “Is Rust faster than C?”

“a small change that improved an error message led to a 10% slowdown.”

CriticizesComment from 14 Jan 2026 in “Inlining – The Ultimate Optimisation”

“Microsoft would still have me as a happy customer and MSVC user”

RecommendsComment from 11 Jan 2026 in “I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too”

“One thing that worries me though is the reliance on undocumented MSVC behavior”

MixedComment from 25 Dec 2025 in “Python 3.15's interpreter for Windows should be 15% faster”

“I find MSVC and especially ICC output to be quite decent”

RecommendsComment from 25 Dec 2025 in “When Compilers Surprise You”

“I've heard that MSVC does (did?) that, but if so that's an MSVC problem.”

MixedComment from 8 Dec 2025 in “The C++ standard for the F-35 Fighter Jet [video]”

“The msvc arm was pretty odd when we used it in ~2003. We did not trust it at all.”

CriticizesComment from 3 Dec 2025 in “You can't fool the optimizer”

“Even beginner assembly coders on their first day wouldn't write such bullshit”

CriticizesComment from 3 Dec 2025 in “You can't fool the optimizer”

“the tricks that Microsoft came up with to mitigate the impact rely on metadata that only MSVC emits”

MixedComment from 27 Nov 2025 in “Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5”

“made out of a dozen javascript processes which makes typing text need a beefy computer”

CriticizesComment from 17 Nov 2025 in “Giving C a superpower: custom header file (safe_c.h)”

“MSVC’s C compiler is rough, but pretty much necessary for actual cross platform”

MixedComment from 17 Nov 2025 in “Giving C a superpower: custom header file (safe_c.h)”

“minus atomics and aligned memory allocators (still between experimental or not going to happen)”

CriticizesComment from 17 Nov 2025 in “Giving C a superpower: custom header file (safe_c.h)”

“It seems that MSVC doesn't like those macros, though.”

MixedComment from 6 Nov 2025 in “Recursive macros in C, demystified (once the ugly crying stops)”

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