Mozilla Thunderbolt

“built on the principle that people and organizations should be in control of their data”

“Thunderbolt (co-designed with Intel driven by Apple)”

“It's very fast and unlike 10Gbps ethernet, doesn't require a bulky, power-hungry adapter.”

“at a 100k$ you're not buying apple products to be limited by the 120gb/s thunderbolt port.”

“I have several 1m long TB4 cables (100W, video, 40Gbps) and they’re neither particularly thick nor were they anywhere close to $60.”

“Having a thunderbolt cable salad is only for those that miss external extensions”

“USB 4 = Thunderbolt 4, except everything is optional.”

“40gig thunderbolt makes a lot more sense”

“awesome to see this from the team inside Mozilla”

“there seems to be a significant disconnect between the claims in this press release / blog post and the actual reality”

“this is like calling your AI model NVME or Northbridge or something. Insanity.”

“I can't even with this nonsense…truly a shame considering I once admired this organization and the principles it stood for.”

“I think this is a smart move”

“yet another identical LLM chat app by an organization most well known for wasting money on stupid shit”

“they could not even come up with a name sufficiently different from their own product”

“Grateful to have any alternative!”

“The only clue as to what this is on the landing page is the background of the product image.”

“It looks like Mozilla is trying to catch the band wagon for no particular reason.”

“I agree that Mozilla is a breath of fresh air, and I am happy to see this extending to AI.”

“That's still an immense amount of code for a chat interface essentially consisting of a text box and a button”

“Mozilla is wasting money on something other than their core product, once again.”

“Doesn’t this have to be done under another name to prevent massive company-killing pushback?”

“We do pretty intense code review of every PR.”

“they took donations to pay a team to build a mail client and had them build an AI thing instead”

“It doesn't seem to help them control the _actual_ AI, i.e. the model, which still has to come from somewhere.”

“stop working on projects distracting from the complex and necessary work of browser and web standards stewardship”

“it doesn't feel like the amazing thing they're trying to hype”

“Just to maximize the chance that you'll confuse Thunderbolt dot io with Thunderbolt the I/O standard.”

“I'd trust it too, unlike other clients.”

“Businesses definitely want to control the AI they're using (especially with RAGs of their own data)”

“their track record does not inspire confidence for anyone concerned about their privacy and data”

“120k LoC of probably largely vibecoded nonsense for a window with a text box and a button”

“There is absolutely no way they didn’t know what Thunderbolt is, so they did this on purpose.”

“their weak governance with regards to actual plans for the future, a couple of questionable partnerships, and the graveyard of products makes it hard to trust”

“Better option than using ChatGPT or Claude.”

“These sorts of distractions just piss me off, and are not part of your core mission.”

“Mozilla's a lot more trustworthy with privacy and data”

“yay another AI front-end. What does this one differently that the other thirteen in a dozen don't?”

“Thunderbolt5's stated "80Gbps" bandwidth comes with some caveats.”

“You know for example that thunderbolt 5 video will always work”