MiniMax M2
Hacker ApprovedRanked 9 of 39 open-weight language models by recommenders
An open-weight coding model that runs locally and comes close to Sonnet and Opus at a fraction of the price; critics cite slowness and heavy token use.
An open-weight coding model that runs locally and comes close to Sonnet and Opus at a fraction of the price; critics cite slowness and heavy token use.
203 people gave an opinion
- recommend it
- 154
- criticize it
- 49
- approval share
- 76%
Recommended in 12 of 13 months
- November 2025: recommended
- December 2025: recommended
- January 2026: recommended
- February 2026: recommended
- March 2026: recommended
- April 2026: recommended
- May 2026: recommended
- June 2026: recommended
- July 2026: recommended
- August 2026: recommended
- September 2026: recommended
- October 2026: recommended
- November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)
Why it carries the badge
- 154 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
- 3.1 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, met.
- Recommended in 12 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.
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What people say about it
The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.
Why people recommend it
Each mark is one comment
Much cheaper than frontier models
“It's quite cheap and seems to be better than Gemini 3 Flash, but it gets really pricy as the context fills up”
Comment from 12 Apr 2026 in “Pro Max 5x Quota Exhausted in 1.5 Hours Despite Moderate Usage” “They are almost as smart but 10x cheaper and their attitude towards subscribers is use where you want.”
Comment from 23 Feb 2026 in “Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw” “has really hit the sweet spot of being very cheap, though more than flash, but I'd also very capable”
Comment from 13 Jun 2026 in “AI Coding at Home Without Going Broke” - Comment from 14 Mar 2026 in “MiniMax M2.5 is trained by Claude Opus 4.6?”
- Comment from 5 Dec 2025 in “State of AI: An Empirical 100T Token Study with OpenRouter”
- Comment from 9 Jan 2026 in “AI Coding Assistants Are Getting Worse”
- Comment from 26 Mar 2026 in “Show HN: I put an AI agent on a $7/month VPS with IRC as its transport layer”
- Comment from 20 Apr 2026 in “OpenClaw isn't fooling me. I remember MS-DOS”
Near-SOTA coding capability
“You get an open model which is a 95% of Opus 4.6 quality and 80% cheaper in most inference providers”
Comment from 14 Mar 2026 in “MiniMax M2.5 is trained by Claude Opus 4.6?” “M2.1 is 10x cheaper than Sonnet for example, but practically fairly close in capabilities”
Comment from 9 Jan 2026 in “AI Coding Assistants Are Getting Worse” “I am pretty sure MiniMax M2.7 would be much better.”
Comment from 12 Apr 2026 in “MiniMax M2.7 Is Now Open Source” - Comment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving”
- Comment from 23 Dec 2025 in “MiniMax M2.1”
- Comment from 21 Apr 2026 in “Anthropic takes $5B from Amazon and pledges $100B in cloud spending in return”
- Comment from 26 Mar 2026 in “Show HN: I put an AI agent on a $7/month VPS with IRC as its transport layer”
Runs locally on ordinary hardware
“The open models are getting so good that what we get at the end of this year will be "good enough" locally for years”
Comment from 6 Jan 2026 in “Welcome to Gas Town” “As far as I can tell Minimax M2.7 is better than anything available a year ago, but it runs on an ordinary PC.”
Comment from 28 Apr 2026 in “Microsoft to Stop Sharing Revenue with Main AI Partner OpenAI” “run something like MiniMax M2.1 to get last-gen performance at something resembling usable speed”
Comment from 26 Jan 2026 in “Qwen3-Max-Thinking” - Comment from 15 May 2026 in “A Few Words on DS4”
Efficient, fewer tokens per answer
“Minimax M2.7 is also surprisingly not that slow, and in some ways faster as it seems to get things right with less thinking output.”
Comment from 22 Apr 2026 in “Qwen3.6-27B: Flagship-Level Coding in a 27B Dense Model” “MiniMax M2.7 230B is in some ways faster (way fewer tokens to arrive at an answer) even though it is much larger”
Comment from 4 Jun 2026 in “Gemma 4 12B: A unified, encoder-free multimodal model”
What people warn about
Each mark is one comment
Slow inference speed
“I'm also sure your prefill is slow enough to make the model mostly unusable, even at smallish context windows”
Comment from 24 Jan 2026 in “Unrolling the Codex Agent Loop” “Minimax has been a strong player in our tests, if they managed to solve the inference speed issue”
Comment from 19 Oct 2026 in “MiniMax M3.1 Flash” “run something like MiniMax M2.1 to get last-gen performance at something resembling usable speed”
Comment from 26 Jan 2026 in “Qwen3-Max-Thinking” - Comment from 20 Oct 2026 in “MiniMax M3.1 Flash”
Burns through many tokens
“performed really poorly in practice and burned through hundreds of thousands of reasoning tokens for each request”
Comment from 9 Mar 2026 in “Ask HN: What Are You Working On? (March 2026)” “Minimax/Composer have this habit of extensive thinking and it is said to be their strength”
Comment from 6 Apr 2026 in “Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks with the Feb updates” “it seems to use A LOT of tokens and it's the slowest model that we've tested for the exam”
Comment from 20 Oct 2026 in “MiniMax M3.1 Flash” Weak at following instructions
“Not as great as following instructions as Claude models and can get lost, but still "good enough".”
Comment from 26 Dec 2025 in “MiniMax M2.1: Built for Real-World Complex Tasks, Multi-Language Programming” “M2.1 is extremely bad at writing tests and following instructions from a .md, I've found”
Comment from 5 Jan 2026 in “IQuest-Coder: A new open-source code model beats Claude Sonnet 4.5 and GPT 5.1 [pdf]” Below Opus-level output quality
“this one far underperforms relative to GLM 5.3 from every test I've done for real-world cybersecurity tasks”
Comment from 20 Oct 2026 in “MiniMax M3.1 Flash” “I found it to be decent. Did not really seem comparable to Opus 4.5 for "quality" output.”
Comment from 18 Mar 2026 in “Ask HN: Are MiniMax Models Scams?”
Other open-weight language models people recommend
The four most recommended other open-weight language models, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.
| Product | Recommend | Criticize | Approval | Months | Owned | Badge |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Qwen 3.8 27B | 1,173 | 426 | 73% | 13 | 2 mo32 owners | Approved |
| Z.ai GLM | 1,043 | 384 | 73% | 13 | 2 mo52 owners | Approved |
| Kimi | 931 | 359 | 72% | 13 | 1 mo26 owners | Approved |
| Gemma 4 | 713 | 249 | 74% | 13 | 1 mo14 owners | Approved |
| MiniMax M2 | 154 | 49 | 76% | 12 | — | Approved |
What people said
40 of the 301 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.
“this one far underperforms relative to GLM 5.3 from every test I've done for real-world cybersecurity tasks”
“it seems to use A LOT of tokens and it's the slowest model that we've tested for the exam”
“you get more than $20 worth of usage within 1 5 hour window at which point it pays for itself.”
“it does perform on par with DeepSeek V4 Pro on my adversarial programming language benchmark”
“was very good at documentation, structuring and organizing the things, but was not as concise and direct as DeepSeek 4.1 Flash in coding”
“Minimax has been a strong player in our tests, if they managed to solve the inference speed issue”
“It could be a MiniMax M3 finetuning, as the parameter count almost matches (435B vs. 438B).”
“smart enough to figure out how to create debug views, add single-frame screenshot and testing harnesses”
“I've found that MiniMax M3 (a smaller model at 295b) will code up better when DeepSeek v4 Pro (1.2t) will not”
“there are other recent open weights and relatively big LLMs that are multimodal, e.g. MiniMax-M3”
“has really hit the sweet spot of being very cheap, though more than flash, but I'd also very capable”
“MiniMax M2.7 230B is in some ways faster (way fewer tokens to arrive at an answer) even though it is much larger”
“where I get all of the confidentiality, integrity, and availability benefits that are lost when choosing to run open weight models”
“is a good guide for running a similar-sized model with 128gb ram and a 3090-sized GPU”
“As far as I can tell Minimax M2.7 is better than anything available a year ago, but it runs on an ordinary PC.”
“Minimax M2.7 is also surprisingly not that slow, and in some ways faster as it seems to get things right with less thinking output.”
“all so close to OpenAI/Anthropic performance that it's not even really worth debating”
“for 90% of my coding and system work, I see no difference between M2.5 and SOTA models”
“You could be doing for ALOT cheaper using something like minimax m2.7 for subagents.”
“It's quite cheap and seems to be better than Gemini 3 Flash, but it gets really pricy as the context fills up”
“In my experience, even the MiniMax M2.5 is a very capable model with decent capabilities”
“I am pretty sure MiniMax M2.7 would be much better.”
“Minimax M2.7 is a big upgrade vs 2.5, at a similar price, should easily beat the grok.”
“Minimax/Composer have this habit of extensive thinking and it is said to be their strength”
“I switched OpenClaw to MiniMax 2.7. This combined with Claude over telegram does enough for me.”
“M2.7 and K2.5 can match Haiku and probably exceed it on most tasks, for much cheaper”
“I found it to be decent. Did not really seem comparable to Opus 4.5 for "quality" output.”
“You get an open model which is a 95% of Opus 4.6 quality and 80% cheaper in most inference providers”
“performed really poorly in practice and burned through hundreds of thousands of reasoning tokens for each request”
“They are almost as smart but 10x cheaper and their attitude towards subscribers is use where you want.”
“This is not literally true, sometimes I'm running up to 3 concurrent intermittently throughout the day”
“run something like MiniMax M2.1 to get last-gen performance at something resembling usable speed”
“I'm also sure your prefill is slow enough to make the model mostly unusable, even at smallish context windows”
“Works great, the local models might not be as good as opus 4.5 or sonnet 4.7, but they are consistent”
“M2.1 is 10x cheaper than Sonnet for example, but practically fairly close in capabilities”
“The open models are getting so good that what we get at the end of this year will be "good enough" locally for years”
“M2.1 is extremely bad at writing tests and following instructions from a .md, I've found”
“Not as great as following instructions as Claude models and can get lost, but still "good enough".”
“it's not that far from SOTA (matches or exceeds the performance of Claude Sonnet 4.5)”
“I used it for a couple of days and was very impressed. Definitely a hidden gem, and super cheap.”
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