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Malus - Clean Room as a Service

Clean-room rewrite service in Developer tools

People recommend it as sharp satire of AI clean-room relicensing, with many praising its humor and presentation. Critics say it is too close to a real paid offering and raises legal doubts.

People recommend it as sharp satire of AI clean-room relicensing, with many praising its humor and presentation. Critics say it is too close to a real paid offering and raises legal doubts.

77 people gave an opinion

recommend it
19
criticize it
58
approval share
25%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 3 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: not recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: not recommended
  4. February 2026: not recommended
  5. March 2026: recommended
  6. April 2026: recommended
  7. May 2026: not recommended
  8. June 2026: not recommended
  9. July 2026: not recommended
  10. August 2026: not recommended
  11. September 2026: not recommended
  12. October 2026: recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 19 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 0.3 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
  • Recommended in 3 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, not met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Sharp satire of AI relicensing

    “The perfect response to the "clean room" AI re-implementation and re-licensing of whatever that library is called.”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

    “The perfect response to the "clean room" AI re-implementation and re-licensing”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

    “Brilliant satire that foreshadows the future.”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”
  • Wish it existed, good idea

    “I unironically want this service to exist.”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

    “I view this as an unmitigated good.”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

    “I'd cheer for a company like this.”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”
  • Polished site and memorable name

    “this is significantly better than most SAAS websites”

    Comment from 13 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

    “Honestly kind of a brilliant name.”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”
  • Clever per-dependency pricing idea

    “it's a brilliant idea that the service charges for whole dependency by package.json”

    Comment from 14 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

    “if you dropped the sarcasm and I think you'd have a viable business”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Legal doubts over clean room claims

    “since nearly all open source dependencies couple the implementation with type definitions, I'm curious how this could pass the legal bar of the clean room”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

    “It rewrites code/modules/projects to less restrictive licenses with no legal enforcement mechanisms.”

    Comment from 30 Mar 2026 in “Coding Agents Could Make Free Software Matter Again”

    “Through our offshore subsidiary in a jurisdiction that doesn't recognize software copyright”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”
  • Unclear if satire or real

    “Sell the same thing you pretend to be satirizing, and HN it's making it go viral for free”

    Comment from 13 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

    “apparently they will accept your money to do it, which seems to cross the line of a joke”

    Comment from 10 Jun 2026 in “Grit: Rewriting Git in Rust with Agents”

    “Is this service a joke? I'm not even sure after reading the reviews at the bottom there.”

    Comment from 20 Mar 2026 in “An update on Steam / GOG changes for OpenTTD”
  • Exploits maintainers' work for profit

    “instead of paying maintainers who already built the thing you want, we instead charge you to use AI to make countless copies of maintainers’ work”

    Comment from 13 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

    “So they recreate the open source project by using an llm that was trained in the open source project's source code.”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

    “Change all your core software library dependencies to be unmaintained ripoff copies of those libraries.”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”
  • Suspicious testimonials and pricing

    “And the testimonials from "Definitely Real Corp", "MegaSoft Industries" and "Profit First LLC" are a bit suspicious”

    Comment from 5 Mar 2026 in “Relicensing with AI-Assisted Rewrite”

    “It does actually generate a price (which is suspiciously like a fixed rate of $1 per megabyte)”

    Comment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

What people said

40 of the 80 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“I've been really inspired by it.”

RecommendsComment from 10 Oct 2026 in “REA Reverse – Engineer Anything”

“apparently they will accept your money to do it, which seems to cross the line of a joke”

CriticizesComment from 10 Jun 2026 in “Grit: Rewriting Git in Rust with Agents”

“Why would you pay for their service when an AI agent can reproduce that for you?”

CriticizesComment from 30 Mar 2026 in “Coding Agents Could Make Free Software Matter Again”

“It rewrites code/modules/projects to less restrictive licenses with no legal enforcement mechanisms.”

CriticizesComment from 30 Mar 2026 in “Coding Agents Could Make Free Software Matter Again”

“A service like Malus doesn't really solve license compliance overhead.”

CriticizesComment from 24 Mar 2026 in “AGPLv3 argument against clean room (re)engineering”

“Is this service a joke? I'm not even sure after reading the reviews at the bottom there.”

CriticizesComment from 20 Mar 2026 in “An update on Steam / GOG changes for OpenTTD”

“it's a brilliant idea that the service charges for whole dependency by package.json”

RecommendsComment from 14 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“Of course, it's a serious issue, but I love the sense of humor here”

CriticizesComment from 13 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“this is significantly better than most SAAS websites”

RecommendsComment from 13 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“You can also use this to say copy proprietary software, and make it open source GPL.”

CriticizesComment from 13 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“Sell the same thing you pretend to be satirizing, and HN it's making it go viral for free”

CriticizesComment from 13 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“instead of paying maintainers who already built the thing you want, we instead charge you to use AI to make countless copies of maintainers’ work”

CriticizesComment from 13 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“We offer a commercial license to a worse version of our software that may contain bugs.”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“if you dropped the sarcasm and I think you'd have a viable business”

MixedComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“Through our offshore subsidiary in a jurisdiction that doesn't recognize software copyright”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“your fork looses the thousands of eyes that spot and fix bugs and security leaks”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“The indemnification is a marketing gimmick to make a legally dangerous service seem safe.”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“For this to be plausible satire, they need to show how they've trained their models to code”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“By having publicity, it becomes vastly more likely that it finds someone who meets the former two criteria”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“The perfect response to the "clean room" AI re-implementation and re-licensing”

RecommendsComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“The perfect response to the "clean room" AI re-implementation and re-licensing of whatever that library is called.”

RecommendsComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“smells suspiciously like a well positioned gag that is secretly seeking VC attention”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“I unironically want this service to exist.”

RecommendsComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“since nearly all open source dependencies couple the implementation with type definitions, I'm curious how this could pass the legal bar of the clean room”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“The 'Firewall' they describe is an illusion because the contamination happens at the training phase”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“Brilliant satire that foreshadows the future.”

RecommendsComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“Satire is too dangerous to be presented outside of its community.”

MixedComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“using this service is itself used in court as evidence for creating a malicious copy”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“I'd cheer for a company like this.”

RecommendsComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“So they recreate the open source project by using an llm that was trained in the open source project's source code.”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“i like the motivation but why again and again do you need to write the content of the page with Slop-LLM-GPT?”

MixedComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“How much human intervention is needed for it to be a real innovation and not llm generated”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“this is unironically amazing”

RecommendsComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“Honestly kind of a brilliant name.”

RecommendsComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“This is brilliant satire.”

RecommendsComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“I don't think you've thought it through.”

MixedComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“It does actually generate a price (which is suspiciously like a fixed rate of $1 per megabyte)”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“I view this as an unmitigated good.”

RecommendsComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“Change all your core software library dependencies to be unmaintained ripoff copies of those libraries.”

CriticizesComment from 12 Mar 2026 in “Malus – Clean Room as a Service”

“And the testimonials from "Definitely Real Corp", "MegaSoft Industries" and "Profit First LLC" are a bit suspicious”

CriticizesComment from 5 Mar 2026 in “Relicensing with AI-Assisted Rewrite”

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