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Mach kernel

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Old free microkernel praised for its virtual memory API and design, but critics say its IPC overhead is high and it lags newer microkernels like L4.

Old free microkernel praised for its virtual memory API and design, but critics say its IPC overhead is high and it lags newer microkernels like L4.

17 people gave an opinion

recommend it
7
criticize it
10
approval share
41%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 6 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: recommended
  4. February 2026: not recommended
  5. March 2026: not recommended
  6. April 2026: not recommended
  7. May 2026: recommended
  8. June 2026: recommended
  9. July 2026: not recommended
  10. August 2026: recommended
  11. September 2026: recommended
  12. October 2026: not recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 7 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, not met.
  • 0.7 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
  • Recommended in 6 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Useful for building real projects

    “In Mach we are able to just zig build to build GUI apps against an ~8 year old glibc version”

    Comment from 19 Aug 2026 in “Solo – a .so loader for static Linux binaries”

    “It's been a great boon to this project and I have zero regrets”

    Comment from 9 Jun 2026 in “Show HN: Mach – A compiled systems language looking for contributions”
  • Appealing design and virtual memory API

    “IMO the Mach virtual memory API is much nicer than the Linux one.”

    Comment from 1 Sep 2026 in “RavynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source”

    “I've always liked the Mach approach.”

    Comment from 7 Jun 2026 in “Moving beyond fork() + exec()”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • High microkernel IPC overhead

    “So is Mach, by the way, if you can afford the microkernel performance overhead.”

    Comment from 8 Jan 2026 in “Kernel bugs hide for 2 years on average. Some hide for 20”

    “the old microkernels, like Mach and all those inspired by it, was indeed too high due to context switches”

    Comment from 26 Jul 2026 in “Maybe we should revisit microkernels”

    “Mach is not a very good microkernel at all, because the overhead is much higher than necessary.”

    Comment from 8 Jan 2026 in “Kernel bugs hide for 2 years on average. Some hide for 20”
  • Dated design versus newer microkernels

    “the negative aspects of Mach’s design are a technical albatross around the neck of any kernel”

    Comment from 2 Feb 2026 in “Linux from Scratch Ends SysVinit Support”

    “dramatic performance improvements of L4 over first-generation microkernels like Mach”

    Comment from 4 May 2026 in “Designing Microkernel IPC”

    “Mach is not a representative proxy for microkernels in 2026.”

    Comment from 26 Jul 2026 in “Maybe we should revisit microkernels”

Other operating systems people recommend

The four most recommended other operating systems, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

Mach kernel compared with 4 alternatives
ProductRecommendCriticizeApprovalMonthsOwnedBadge
Windows1,2873,58226%1310 yrs192 owners—
macOS1,0411,92835%1211 yrs183 owners—
Linux74527773%1219 yrs116 ownersApproved
FreeBSD3359478%1220 yrs69 ownersApproved
Mach kernelThis page71041%6——
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What people said

All 19 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“The boat long ago sailed on Mach/Hurd”

CriticizesComment from 22 Oct 2026 in “Several Linux kernel vulnerabilities accidentally posted to public mailing list”

“IMO the Mach virtual memory API is much nicer than the Linux one.”

RecommendsComment from 1 Sep 2026 in “RavynOS: Pre-alpha open-source OS based on Darwin, FreeBSD, Apple open-source”

“In Mach we are able to just zig build to build GUI apps against an ~8 year old glibc version”

RecommendsComment from 19 Aug 2026 in “Solo – a .so loader for static Linux binaries”

“Mach was pretty damn big.”

CriticizesComment from 5 Aug 2026 in “GNU Hurd News 2026-Q2”

“despite having many issues with performance”

CriticizesComment from 4 Aug 2026 in “Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc”

“Mach is not a representative proxy for microkernels in 2026.”

CriticizesComment from 26 Jul 2026 in “Maybe we should revisit microkernels”

“the old microkernels, like Mach and all those inspired by it, was indeed too high due to context switches”

CriticizesComment from 26 Jul 2026 in “Maybe we should revisit microkernels”

“It's been a great boon to this project and I have zero regrets”

RecommendsComment from 9 Jun 2026 in “Show HN: Mach – A compiled systems language looking for contributions”

“I've always liked the Mach approach.”

RecommendsComment from 7 Jun 2026 in “Moving beyond fork() + exec()”

“They use a Mach/BSD hybrid”

MixedComment from 18 May 2026 in “The foundations of a provably secure operating system (PSOS) (1979) [pdf]”

“It was so painful we used to agree that we wouldn't grab food or coffee or anything until we'd worked out what CL we should sync to”

CriticizesComment from 13 May 2026 in “A History of IDEs at Google”

“dramatic performance improvements of L4 over first-generation microkernels like Mach”

CriticizesComment from 4 May 2026 in “Designing Microkernel IPC”

“Mach uses Python, and the dependencies they use are a pain whenever no pre-built wheels are available.”

CriticizesComment from 24 Feb 2026 in “Firefox 148 Launches with AI Kill Switch Feature and More Enhancements”

“the negative aspects of Mach’s design are a technical albatross around the neck of any kernel”

CriticizesComment from 2 Feb 2026 in “Linux from Scratch Ends SysVinit Support”

“Mach worked that way, and the overhead was high.”

CriticizesComment from 18 Jan 2026 in “Xous Operating System”

“it's quite inefficient compared to L4 or Zircon's IPC”

CriticizesComment from 13 Jan 2026 in “Kernel bugs hide for 2 years on average. Some hide for 20”

“Mach is not a very good microkernel at all, because the overhead is much higher than necessary.”

CriticizesComment from 8 Jan 2026 in “Kernel bugs hide for 2 years on average. Some hide for 20”

“So is Mach, by the way, if you can afford the microkernel performance overhead.”

MixedComment from 8 Jan 2026 in “Kernel bugs hide for 2 years on average. Some hide for 20”

“given the lack of details on the repo”

MixedComment from 11 Nov 2025 in “Sysgpu – Experimental descendant of WebGPU written in Zig”

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