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Proton Lumo

Shares rank 14 of 26 AI assistants by recommenders

People recommend Lumo for its privacy stance, free tier, and built-in web search that handles everyday questions well. The main caveat is that it trails leading models.

People recommend Lumo for its privacy stance, free tier, and built-in web search that handles everyday questions well. The main caveat is that it trails leading models.

26 people gave an opinion

recommend it
14
criticize it
12
approval share
54%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 9 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: recommended
  4. February 2026: recommended
  5. March 2026: recommended
  6. April 2026: recommended
  7. May 2026: recommended
  8. June 2026: recommended
  9. July 2026: recommended
  10. August 2026: not recommended
  11. September 2026: recommended
  12. October 2026: not recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Owned for 1 month

Median of the 3 owners who said how long they have had it.

Each square is one year.

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 14 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 1.1 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
  • Recommended in 9 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.

The same three rules apply to every product, and the badge can’t be bought. How the badge works

What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Strong privacy stance and no-logging

    “Lumo by Proton is pretty performant. Mostly, it has an epic free tier and I dig their stance on privacy-first AI.”

    Comment from 3 Mar 2026 in “Ask HN: What Online LLM / Chat do you use?”

    “use of a strong Mistral model and web search is 100% private”

    Comment from 15 Feb 2026 in “Amazon, Google Unwittingly Reveal the Severity of the U.S. Surveillance State”

    “Proton Lumo has more clear policies of no-logging”

    Comment from 15 Nov 2025 in “Is ChatGPT and OpenAI Stealing Ideas?”
  • Built-in web search works well

    “I pay $13/month for Proton’s Lumo+ private chat LLM that contains an excellent built-in web search tool.”

    Comment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

    “ProtonMail's Lumo+ product for all private daily web search and chatbot functionality is enough for me”

    Comment from 25 Mar 2026 in “OpenAI set to discontinue Sora video platform”

    “Something like Lumo is very much good enough to replace search”

    Comment from 27 Apr 2026 in “France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being American”
  • Good for everyday questions

    “ProtonMail's Lumo+ product for all private daily web search and chatbot functionality is enough for me”

    Comment from 25 Mar 2026 in “OpenAI set to discontinue Sora video platform”

    “Lumo works fine for the simple quality of life search and question answering stuff.”

    Comment from 24 Jan 2026 in “Proton Spam and the AI Consent Problem”

    “I like Lumo a lot. It almost never ends with a follow up question.”

    Comment from 4 Mar 2026 in “Giving LLMs a personality is just good engineering”
  • Free tier and fair price

    “Lumo by Proton is pretty performant. Mostly, it has an epic free tier and I dig their stance on privacy-first AI.”

    Comment from 3 Mar 2026 in “Ask HN: What Online LLM / Chat do you use?”

    “Adequate, good features, not too expensive.”

    Comment from 13 May 2026 in “I Moved My Digital Stack to Europe”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Open-source claims only cover frontend

    “they really don't do themselves any favours by claiming it's all open-source when only the frontend is”

    Comment from 30 Jun 2026 in “Lumo 2.0”

    “Wish they'd be a bit more open source about this, bet people would contribute more.”

    Comment from 30 Jun 2026 in “Lumo 2.0”

    “only their clients are open. The models themselves?”

    Comment from 30 Jun 2026 in “Lumo 2.0”
  • Unclear privacy promises and email opt-out

    “Lumo never promises encryption while processing a conversation on their servers.”

    Comment from 14 Nov 2025 in “Fighting the New York Times' invasion of user privacy”

    “But seems like they stripped this info from their Privacy Policy now?”

    Comment from 30 Jun 2026 in “Lumo 2.0”

    “how can I have been any more explicit about opting out of Lumo emails”

    Comment from 23 Jan 2026 in “Proton Spam and the AI Consent Problem”
  • Trails current leading models

    “breaks after every fifth message or so and is substantially behind SOTA offerings”

    Comment from 1 Sep 2026 in “Proton Outage”

    “it feels a few iterations behind the current models”

    Comment from 30 Jun 2026 in “Lumo 2.0”

    “Lumo and other suites feel subpar and inferior.”

    Comment from 1 Nov 2026 in “Manifestos, Fear, and 'Loser Thinking': Inside Proton's AI Reckoning”

Other AI assistants people recommend

The four most recommended other AI assistants, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

Proton Lumo compared with 4 alternatives
ProductRecommendCriticizeApprovalMonthsOwnedBadge
Claude5,1755,00551%136 mo326 owners—
Google Gemini2,1952,23650%136 mo98 owners—
ChatGPT2,1862,88543%131 yr164 owners—
Grok7271,24937%131 mo19 owners—
Proton LumoThis page141254%91 mo3 owners—
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What people said

37 of the 43 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“Lumo and other suites feel subpar and inferior.”

CriticizesComment from 1 Nov 2026 in “Manifestos, Fear, and 'Loser Thinking': Inside Proton's AI Reckoning”

“Lumo seems the most reputable.”

RecommendsComment from 9 Sep 2026 in “The Navier–Stokes Millennium Prize Problem”

“It is E2EE and has projects.”

RecommendsComment from 3 Sep 2026 in “Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?”

“breaks after every fifth message or so and is substantially behind SOTA offerings”

CriticizesComment from 1 Sep 2026 in “Proton Outage”

“the upgrade from older to newer versions of lumo were definitely noticeable”

RecommendsComment from 28 Jul 2026 in “Moving from Claude to Proton Lumo”

“These safeguard guardrails are apparently only good at stopping poop pics.”

CriticizesComment from 11 Jul 2026 in “How the Terrorist Group Boko Haram Uses Frontier AI”

“it feels a few iterations behind the current models”

CriticizesComment from 30 Jun 2026 in “Lumo 2.0”

“But seems like they stripped this info from their Privacy Policy now?”

CriticizesComment from 30 Jun 2026 in “Lumo 2.0”

“a private LLM with good conversation management”

RecommendsComment from 30 Jun 2026 in “Lumo 2.0”

“Wish they'd be a bit more open source about this, bet people would contribute more.”

CriticizesComment from 30 Jun 2026 in “Lumo 2.0”

“they really don't do themselves any favours by claiming it's all open-source when only the frontend is”

MixedComment from 30 Jun 2026 in “Lumo 2.0”

“only their clients are open. The models themselves?”

CriticizesComment from 30 Jun 2026 in “Lumo 2.0”

“for what it is it is also good”

RecommendsComment from 8 Jun 2026 in “Apple reveals new AI architecture built around Google Gemini models”

“Adequate, good features, not too expensive.”

RecommendsComment from 13 May 2026 in “I Moved My Digital Stack to Europe”

“Something like Lumo is very much good enough to replace search”

RecommendsComment from 27 Apr 2026 in “France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being American”

“I pay $13/month for Proton’s Lumo+ private chat LLM that contains an excellent built-in web search tool.”

RecommendsComment from 3 Apr 2026 in “Show HN: Apfel – The free AI already on your Mac”

“ProtonMail's Lumo+ product for all private daily web search and chatbot functionality is enough for me”

RecommendsComment from 25 Mar 2026 in “OpenAI set to discontinue Sora video platform”

“I've switched to lumo if I need an ai so that's fine by me.”

RecommendsComment from 18 Mar 2026 in “Kagi is contemplating the removal of the assistant from its professional tier”

“I like Lumo a lot. It almost never ends with a follow up question.”

RecommendsComment from 4 Mar 2026 in “Giving LLMs a personality is just good engineering”

“Lumo by Proton is pretty performant. Mostly, it has an epic free tier and I dig their stance on privacy-first AI.”

RecommendsComment from 3 Mar 2026 in “Ask HN: What Online LLM / Chat do you use?”

“Proton Lumo has the better privacy promises.”

RecommendsComment from 28 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI Executes Agreement with Dept of War for Classified Environment Deployment”

“it has excellent integrated search”

RecommendsComment from 26 Feb 2026 in “How Will OpenAI Compete?”

“chat history is stored with my Proton data and is available in all my devices”

RecommendsComment from 26 Feb 2026 in “How Will OpenAI Compete?”

“There are some services like proton lumo, the service by signal, kagi's AI which seem to try to be better”

MixedComment from 26 Feb 2026 in “Large-Scale Online Deanonymization with LLM Agents”

“their handy lumo+ private chat service built on Mistral models”

RecommendsComment from 23 Feb 2026 in “Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw”

“I like just having one tool to use”

RecommendsComment from 23 Feb 2026 in “Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw”

“use of a strong Mistral model and web search is 100% private”

RecommendsComment from 15 Feb 2026 in “Amazon, Google Unwittingly Reveal the Severity of the U.S. Surveillance State”

“Lumo works fine for the simple quality of life search and question answering stuff.”

RecommendsComment from 24 Jan 2026 in “Proton Spam and the AI Consent Problem”

“if you only use it a few times a week, it’s not worth the money”

MixedComment from 23 Jan 2026 in “Proton Spam and the AI Consent Problem”

“The 'not technically a Lumo email' dodge is the real story here.”

CriticizesComment from 23 Jan 2026 in “Proton Spam and the AI Consent Problem”

“how can I have been any more explicit about opting out of Lumo emails”

CriticizesComment from 23 Jan 2026 in “Proton Spam and the AI Consent Problem”

“Lumo AI will be limited, not remembering conversations”

CriticizesComment from 23 Jan 2026 in “Proton Spam and the AI Consent Problem”

“Lumo will likely be the thing that moves me away from Proton”

CriticizesComment from 23 Jan 2026 in “Proton Spam and the AI Consent Problem”

“I am personally liking the proton lumo models”

RecommendsComment from 21 Jan 2026 in “OpenAI is rolling out age prediction”

“I think proton's Lumo is another good bet.”

RecommendsComment from 20 Jan 2026 in “OpenAI is rolling out age prediction”

“Proton Lumo has more clear policies of no-logging”

RecommendsComment from 15 Nov 2025 in “Is ChatGPT and OpenAI Stealing Ideas?”

“Lumo never promises encryption while processing a conversation on their servers.”

CriticizesComment from 14 Nov 2025 in “Fighting the New York Times' invasion of user privacy”

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