JetBrains IDEs

“once I have a JetBrains IDE open, a dev environment, some browser tabs, Claude, and a bunch of other crap Electron apps I need the machine is already swapping quite a bit”

“Part of what I've loved about JetBrians tools has been the navigation and deep semantics for large code bases”

“I canceled my subscription after like 12 years because I realized all the things that made it great aren’t really needed anymore”

“Jetbrains is that rare company, where the important long term customers are rewarded by giving them a discount.”

“I can't name a reason to use something as heavy as JetBrains products just to review things written by others”

“they completely dropped the ball on AI integration, everything they forced into the IDE seem to be an annoyance”

“Jetbrains IDEs are far from bloated and slow especially compared to electron and chromium based software.”

“Quality has been really lackluster, and their attempts to hop onto the AI train have been as annoying as they have been bad.”

“the last few updates have been quite rough, and they really don't seem to have worked out the AI thing at all”

“JB IDEs bake in everything you can get via vscode plugins with documentation, a cohesive experience, and regular maintenance”

“Code intelligence (find usages, go to definition, refactor/rename/move, etc.) and debugging are on another level”

“their pricing for individuals made a lot of sense, you buy the license and you can keep using perpetual license”

“it seems very clearly worse than their (excellent, arguably best-in-class) deterministic autocomplete”

“LSP is quite limited in comparison to what can be done with a real IDE integration in JetBrains product suite”

“They fumbled the initial rollout with the way they gate-kept the agents behind their own subscription.”

“I feel so sad and disheartened that a company that produced such brilliant tools have completely lost the plot on AI”

“After using JetBrains IDEs for years I can really hardly get into anything that isn't vertically integrated.”

“they've made a gazillion changes but I can probably count on one hand the number of them that I found truly useful”

“Standard IDE features allowing me to quickly search and/or browse methods, variables, etc. are far more useful”

“It was the first IDE development team to decide that it would rather require extra computing resources from you”

“the distance between what is possible in Lisp and a language with good IDE support like Java and Kotlin is now negligible”

“I have absolutely no headroom when running JetBrains IDEs so I keep them closed unless there's a specific feature I want.”

“I've use JetBrains IDEs for years (been subscribed annually since 2017), but since Zed I havent really opened any of those IDEs in a long time”

“"rewrite all subtrees that match this pattern" works really well in jetbrains, they call it structure search-and-replace.”

“I have been using their products proferssionally for over 20 years, and still do to the same extent as ever.”

“It is likely still the best environment to read and debug Java code, which you still need in addition to whatever agentic tooling you have.”

“In JetBrains IDEs, you can configure panels to sit at the top left/bottom left/left bottom/right bottom/bottom right/top right side”

“In terms of in-line instantaneous error highlighting, introspection, refactoring, and autocomplete, it's not on the same level as JetBrains.”

“Jetbrains IDEs have AI support with all the things you've described, and in a more polished experience that requires significantly less maintenance and tuning.”

“I love JetBrains and they've gotten better with using devcontainers but they're still kind of flaky at times.”

“I love their offerings, but I can see their value rapidly evaporating as Claude code/agents eats their lunch.”

“they don't seem to (in Python and Rust at least) have an understanding of the code structure in the way JB does”

“Basically you get a discount that increases each year based on how long you have been a customer”

“JetBrains level debugger, global search (really global through files, actions, whatever you can imagine)”

“They've tried to play it both ways. Not AI enough for the AI fanboys, but want to keep a toe in there for everyone else.”

“their development has been a mess for a while with half-assed implementations and long standing bugs”

“I’m also someone who paid for JetBrains when everyone still thought it wasn’t worth money to pay for a code editor.”

“a lot of JetBrains' IDEs' built in features have definitely made me faster than I ever was with vim”

“They let you use a years worth of upgrades and then you can decide if you want to pay to keep those upgrades.”

“if there's a question about a type you can ctrl+click on the type and immediately pull all information about it”