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Isabelle/HOL

Ranked 8 of 8 proof assistants by recommenders

Recommended for formal verification because its kernel is small and it has large libraries, and it is seen as a practical alternative to Lean. Critics find the tooling flawed and painful to use.

Recommended for formal verification because its kernel is small and it has large libraries, and it is seen as a practical alternative to Lean. Critics find the tooling flawed and painful to use.

6 people gave an opinion

recommend it
5
criticize it
1
approval share
83%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 5 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: not recommended
  4. February 2026: recommended
  5. March 2026: not recommended
  6. April 2026: recommended
  7. May 2026: not recommended
  8. June 2026: not recommended
  9. July 2026: recommended
  10. August 2026: not recommended
  11. September 2026: not recommended
  12. October 2026: recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 5 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, not met.
  • 5 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, met.
  • Recommended in 5 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Small kernel, large libraries

    “HOL plus type classes and locales, backed by a small kernel and big libraries, will get you to production faster and with fewer regrets”

    Comment from 2 Nov 2025 in “Why don't you use dependent types?”

    “Isabelle/HOL is probably at similar footing to Lean because its kernel is so simple.”

    Comment from 19 Oct 2026 in “Lean now ships with verified kernels”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Hard to use, far from nice

    “Isabelle's better than Lean, but it's far from nice”

    Comment from 30 Jul 2026 in “Are We Stuck with Lean?”

    “they're fine (if extraordinarily painful to use)”

    Comment from 9 Sep 2026 in “C*: Unifying Programming and Verification in C (2025)”
  • Tooling has deep flaws

    “the tooling has deep flaws even outside the pure desktop-first app approach”

    Comment from 27 Apr 2026 in “"Why not just use Lean?"”
  • Fairly mediocre overall

    “Isabelle proper is fairly mediocre”

    Comment from 7 Feb 2026 in “First Proof”

Other proof assistants people recommend

The four most recommended other proof assistants, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

Isabelle/HOL compared with 4 alternatives
ProductRecommendCriticizeApprovalMonthsOwnedBadge
Lean 426810073%131 yr6 ownersApproved
Rocq25389%10—Approved
Coq24875%9—Approved
Agda19579%9—Approved
Isabelle/HOLThis page5183%5——
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What people said

6 of the 7 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“Isabelle/HOL is probably at similar footing to Lean because its kernel is so simple.”

RecommendsComment from 19 Oct 2026 in “Lean now ships with verified kernels”

“they're fine (if extraordinarily painful to use)”

CriticizesComment from 9 Sep 2026 in “C*: Unifying Programming and Verification in C (2025)”

“Isabelle's better than Lean, but it's far from nice”

MixedComment from 30 Jul 2026 in “Are We Stuck with Lean?”

“the tooling has deep flaws even outside the pure desktop-first app approach”

MixedComment from 27 Apr 2026 in “"Why not just use Lean?"”

“Isabelle proper is fairly mediocre”

MixedComment from 7 Feb 2026 in “First Proof”

“HOL plus type classes and locales, backed by a small kernel and big libraries, will get you to production faster and with fewer regrets”

RecommendsComment from 2 Nov 2025 in “Why don't you use dependent types?”

Counts come from 1,795,640 Hacker News comments, November 2025 to November 2026. How we count. Report a mistake.