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IBM Granite

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Shares rank 19 of 39 open-weight language models by recommenders

Small open-weight models from IBM that people run locally, praised for speed, efficiency and strong results for their size. Critics say they trail rival models on benchmarks and lack reasoning training.

Small open-weight models from IBM that people run locally, praised for speed, efficiency and strong results for their size. Critics say they trail rival models on benchmarks and lack reasoning training.

55 people gave an opinion

recommend it
37
criticize it
18
approval share
67%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 11 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: recommended
  2. December 2025: recommended
  3. January 2026: recommended
  4. February 2026: recommended
  5. March 2026: not recommended
  6. April 2026: recommended
  7. May 2026: recommended
  8. June 2026: recommended
  9. July 2026: recommended
  10. August 2026: recommended
  11. September 2026: recommended
  12. October 2026: recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Owned for 1 month

Median of the 3 owners who said how long they have had it.

Each square is one year.

Why it carries the badge

  • 37 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 2.1 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, met.
  • Recommended in 11 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Fast and efficient on local hardware

    “This makes then very token efficient and particularly well suited for local inference”

    Comment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

    “I found these to be a great balance of speed and consistency on local hardware”

    Comment from 1 Jan 2026 in “Show HN: A local-first financial auditor using IBM Granite, MCP, and SQLite”

    “The 4b they released was not good for my needs”

    Comment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”
  • Capable for its small size

    “genuinely not bad for a tiny 3B model - it can at least output valid SVG”

    Comment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

    “a Granite model at nearly half the size has no problems”

    Comment from 14 Nov 2025 in “VibeThinker-1.5B”

    “super good small parameter lineup for local tasks”

    Comment from 29 Oct 2026 in “We're releasing the weights of Mistral Large 4”
  • Useful for agentic and tool-calling work

    “I've found them to be quite capable in content retrieval and long-running workflows”

    Comment from 26 Oct 2026 in “IBM CEO says open weight models are now good and cheap on-prem”

    “For coding I use qwen3.6:35b-mlx and agentic granite4.1:3b works fine.”

    Comment from 17 Jun 2026 in “Running local models is good now”

    “granite4.2 is optimised for agentic work and only needs 5GB of memory.”

    Comment from 26 Aug 2026 in “New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Trails rival models on benchmarks

    “qwen3.5 9b outperforms granite 4.1 30b by a huge amount (32 vs 15 on artificialanalysis benchmark)”

    Comment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

    “The Granite models have always been at least one year behind in terms of capabilities.”

    Comment from 2 May 2026 in “IBM Granite 4.1 family of models”

    “Their granite series appears to be nowhere close to competitive.”

    Comment from 17 Jun 2026 in “GLM-5.2 is the new leading open weights model on Artificial Analysis”
  • Lacks reasoning training

    “It's strange that they don't include reasoning training (RLVR).”

    Comment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

    “it didn't support reasoning which limited its performance”

    Comment from 29 Jul 2026 in “Show HN: Open-source engine running Gemma 4 26B in 2 GB RAM on any M-series Mac”
  • Poor output on some tasks

    “failed completely because it was just writing non-descriptive massages”

    Comment from 2 Jun 2026 in “Social Intelligence Benchmark”

    “i just got Granite4.1 tell me about YOLO repeatedly for no reasons”

    Comment from 3 May 2026 in “The IBM Granite 4.1 family of models”

    “Its hopeless for basic task like parsing/generating headers”

    Comment from 1 May 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”
  • Clinical, wordy tone

    “Quick vibe check of it- 8B @ Q6 - seems promising. Bit of a clinical tone”

    Comment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

    “Reams and reams of corporatese about why it wasn’t wrong when it was.”

    Comment from 26 Oct 2026 in “IBM CEO says open weight models are now good and cheap on-prem”

Other open-weight language models people recommend

The four most recommended other open-weight language models, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

IBM Granite compared with 4 alternatives
ProductRecommendCriticizeApprovalMonthsOwnedBadge
Qwen 3.8 27B1,17342673%132 mo32 ownersApproved
Z.ai GLM1,04338473%132 mo52 ownersApproved
Kimi93135972%131 mo26 ownersApproved
Gemma 471324974%131 mo14 ownersApproved
IBM GraniteThis page371867%111 mo3 ownersApproved
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What people said

40 of the 69 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“super good small parameter lineup for local tasks”

RecommendsComment from 29 Oct 2026 in “We're releasing the weights of Mistral Large 4”

“I use granite and qwen together with a manually curated set of books, articles, etc.”

RecommendsComment from 28 Oct 2026 in “Survival LLM: AI assistant and emergency library that runs on your own computer”

“Reams and reams of corporatese about why it wasn’t wrong when it was.”

CriticizesComment from 26 Oct 2026 in “IBM CEO says open weight models are now good and cheap on-prem”

“I've found them to be quite capable in content retrieval and long-running workflows”

RecommendsComment from 26 Oct 2026 in “IBM CEO says open weight models are now good and cheap on-prem”

“are optimized to handle agentic workflows”

RecommendsComment from 2 Sep 2026 in “My local model setup on an M4 Pro Mac Mini”

“granite4.2 is optimised for agentic work and only needs 5GB of memory.”

RecommendsComment from 26 Aug 2026 in “New Mac mini, featuring M6 and M5 Pro”

“IBM Granite series are also unique and interesting for trying to reduce liability and extend local context size.”

RecommendsComment from 8 Aug 2026 in “U.S. Department of Energy Launches the Genesis Open Models Initiative”

“it didn't support reasoning which limited its performance”

CriticizesComment from 29 Jul 2026 in “Show HN: Open-source engine running Gemma 4 26B in 2 GB RAM on any M-series Mac”

“insanely fast and results are good vs much bigger models”

RecommendsComment from 27 Jun 2026 in “Ask HN: MacBook vs. Dedicated GPU for LLM”

“Their granite series appears to be nowhere close to competitive.”

CriticizesComment from 17 Jun 2026 in “GLM-5.2 is the new leading open weights model on Artificial Analysis”

“For coding I use qwen3.6:35b-mlx and agentic granite4.1:3b works fine.”

RecommendsComment from 17 Jun 2026 in “Running local models is good now”

“Results are pretty good and support tool calling.”

RecommendsComment from 16 Jun 2026 in “Running local models is good now”

“Granite has much of the training pipeline and data open, but is missing some of each.”

MixedComment from 14 Jun 2026 in “GLM 5.2 Is Out”

“If current Granite models had been released 4 years ago, they would have been astonishing breakthroughs at the time.”

RecommendsComment from 2 Jun 2026 in “Trump signs executive order granting oversight of AI models”

“Granite was the most surprising I learned about recently, wasn't too good with Zed though.”

MixedComment from 2 Jun 2026 in “Trump signs executive order granting oversight of AI models”

“failed completely because it was just writing non-descriptive massages”

CriticizesComment from 2 Jun 2026 in “Social Intelligence Benchmark”

“i just got Granite4.1 tell me about YOLO repeatedly for no reasons”

CriticizesComment from 3 May 2026 in “The IBM Granite 4.1 family of models”

“The Granite models have always been at least one year behind in terms of capabilities.”

CriticizesComment from 2 May 2026 in “IBM Granite 4.1 family of models”

“Probably worse than Gemma 4 or Qwen 3.6 with thinking off.”

CriticizesComment from 1 May 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“Its hopeless for basic task like parsing/generating headers”

CriticizesComment from 1 May 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“the performance claim of 8b dense matching 32b moe is somewhat questionable”

MixedComment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“genuinely not bad for a tiny 3B model - it can at least output valid SVG”

RecommendsComment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“compared to other model families, Granite 4.1 8B sucks”

CriticizesComment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“This makes then very token efficient and particularly well suited for local inference”

RecommendsComment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“It's strange that they don't include reasoning training (RLVR).”

CriticizesComment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“Very impressive series of SLM by IBM here.”

RecommendsComment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“qwen3.5 9b outperforms granite 4.1 30b by a huge amount (32 vs 15 on artificialanalysis benchmark)”

CriticizesComment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“That this 8B model is decent is impressive, but that it could perform on par with a good model 4 times as large is a daydream.”

MixedComment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“Quick vibe check of it- 8B @ Q6 - seems promising. Bit of a clinical tone”

MixedComment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“It's pretty impressive at 8b. Runs on commodity hardware quickly.”

RecommendsComment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“The 4b they released was not good for my needs”

CriticizesComment from 30 Apr 2026 in “Granite 4.1: IBM's 8B Model Matching 32B MoE”

“3.3 8b did as well, both run on my macbook”

RecommendsComment from 17 Feb 2026 in “Show HN: Price Per Ball – Site that sorts golf balls on Amazon by price per ball”

“granite 4.0 micro works fine for me”

RecommendsComment from 17 Feb 2026 in “Show HN: Price Per Ball – Site that sorts golf balls on Amazon by price per ball”

“I found these to be a great balance of speed and consistency on local hardware”

RecommendsComment from 1 Jan 2026 in “Show HN: A local-first financial auditor using IBM Granite, MCP, and SQLite”

“Granite 4 based models are even smaller, just a couple of gigabytes and are capable of automation tasks, summarization, translation, research”

RecommendsComment from 19 Dec 2025 in “Firefox will have an option to disable all AI features”

“It wasn't very promising when it came to benchmarks though”

MixedComment from 3 Dec 2025 in “IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending on AI data centers will pay off”

“there the success rate was higher (1/50 refusals with 0.02 divergence)”

RecommendsComment from 17 Nov 2025 in “Heretic: Automatic censorship removal for language models”

“a Granite model at nearly half the size has no problems”

RecommendsComment from 14 Nov 2025 in “VibeThinker-1.5B”

“a 1B Granite nano model has only little problems (word count) with such tasks”

RecommendsComment from 13 Nov 2025 in “VibeThinker-1.5B”

“small ibm granite worked surpassingly well”

RecommendsComment from 1 Nov 2025 on Hacker News

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