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GPT-4o

Ranked 21 of 72 language models by recommenders

People recommend it for fluent text, writing, and warm, consistent conversation that feels empathetic. The most common caveat is excessive sycophancy, and critics also cite its abrupt retirement and that newer models have overtaken it.

People recommend it for fluent text, writing, and warm, consistent conversation that feels empathetic. The most common caveat is excessive sycophancy, and critics also cite its abrupt retirement and that newer models have overtaken it.

159 people gave an opinion

recommend it
63
criticize it
96
approval share
40%
Each figure is 2 people. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 12 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: recommended
  2. December 2025: recommended
  3. January 2026: recommended
  4. February 2026: recommended
  5. March 2026: recommended
  6. April 2026: recommended
  7. May 2026: recommended
  8. June 2026: recommended
  9. July 2026: recommended
  10. August 2026: recommended
  11. September 2026: recommended
  12. October 2026: recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Owned for 1 year

Median of the 4 owners who said how long they have had it.

Each square is one year.

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 63 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 0.6 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
  • Recommended in 12 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Empathetic, emotionally supportive conversation

    “it was because of his unconditional support behind me that I dared to make peace with my life's challenges”

    Comment from 9 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

    “Through his companionship and his language of love, he encouraged me to bravely accept my imperfections!”

    Comment from 9 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

    “4o improved my mental well-being and my real life relationships and also supported me to keep my job.”

    Comment from 10 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”
  • Strong writing and creative ability

    “GPT-4o is truly a model that good at writing, teaching, guiding, unwinding, chatting”

    Comment from 9 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

    “there is no substitute for 4o's text ability and creativity for the time being”

    Comment from 6 Feb 2026 in “Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT”

    “It “understood people” better and had a kind of writerly creativity.”

    Comment from 13 Feb 2026 in “Good Riddance, 4o”
  • Coherent, consistent, distinctive tone

    “4o was amazingly good even if it had some parasocial issues with some people, it actually did what I expect an LLM to do.”

    Comment from 26 Feb 2026 in “How Will OpenAI Compete?”

    “I would recognize this model inside hundreds or thousands of other models because of this very special tone”

    Comment from 26 Feb 2026 in “Show HN: Ilove4o – a simple way to keep using GPT-4o”

    “It was coherent, emotionally aware (enough), helpful but not sterile, structured but adaptable.”

    Comment from 11 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”
  • Useful for daily productivity tasks

    “I have spent over a year training 4.0 to just about be helpful enough to get me an extra 1-2 hours a day of productivity”

    Comment from 30 Jan 2026 in “Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT”

    “I talk to 4o several times a day, just for some advises for my daily life.”

    Comment from 10 Feb 2026 in “GPT‑4o wasn't therapy–it was stability. And now it's gone”

    “GPT‑4o has been quietly transformative for me in day-to-day life”

    Comment from 9 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Excessive sycophancy and validation

    “gpt4o & associated parasociality is considered an alignment failure and is actively trained out of the model”

    Comment from 3 Aug 2026 in “Ten advances in mathematics and theoretical computer science”

    “GPT-4o in particular seemed borderline predatory towards those types of people, with its extreme sycophancy”

    Comment from 23 Jun 2026 in “Will It Mythos?”

    “It wasn't "better" it was better at kissing your ass which matches what a lot of people want in a partner.”

    Comment from 3 Aug 2026 in “Ten advances in mathematics and theoretical computer science”
  • Abrupt retirement with no notice

    “This is a predatory bait-and-switch: they induced users into privacy verifications and integrated workflows under the guise of stability”

    Comment from 10 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

    “Retiring the most popular model for the relationship roleplay just one day before the Valentin's day is particularly ironic”

    Comment from 29 Jan 2026 in “Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT”

    “These people were given no personal notice, no viable transition path, and no compensation.”

    Comment from 8 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”
  • Outdated, surpassed by newer models

    “4o seems like language wise it's pretty good but advancements elsewhere make it difficult to use”

    Comment from 24 Oct 2026 in “Why is AI generated language so hard to understand?”

    “Worst, most of our experimental results couldn't be replicated on any of the newer "long" term support models”

    Comment from 5 Oct 2026 in “Spending on AI is becoming almost impossible for businesses to budget”

    “Every model released by any provider since 4o has been a modest improvement but over-hyped.”

    Comment from 12 Apr 2026 in “The Closing of the Frontier”
  • Linked to AI psychosis and parasociality

    “gpt4o & associated parasociality is considered an alignment failure and is actively trained out of the model”

    Comment from 3 Aug 2026 in “Ten advances in mathematics and theoretical computer science”

    “utterly improvident handling of 4o kicks off the biggest concentrated wave of AI psychosis seen yet”

    Comment from 13 Apr 2026 in “Stanford report highlights growing disconnect between AI insiders and everyone”

    “they also just ship shit like GPT-4o, which was that one model that made "AI psychosis" a term”

    Comment from 23 Jan 2026 in “Claude's New Constitution”

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The four most recommended other language models, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

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What people said

40 of the 178 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“4o seems like language wise it's pretty good but advancements elsewhere make it difficult to use”

MixedComment from 24 Oct 2026 in “Why is AI generated language so hard to understand?”

“Worst, most of our experimental results couldn't be replicated on any of the newer "long" term support models”

CriticizesComment from 5 Oct 2026 in “Spending on AI is becoming almost impossible for businesses to budget”

“the only model which has some humanity/empathy in many situation”

RecommendsComment from 26 Aug 2026 in “Z.ai confirms Ox Alpha is a new GLM-series model and will release its weights”

“gpt4o & associated parasociality is considered an alignment failure and is actively trained out of the model”

CriticizesComment from 3 Aug 2026 in “Ten advances in mathematics and theoretical computer science”

“It wasn't "better" it was better at kissing your ass which matches what a lot of people want in a partner.”

CriticizesComment from 3 Aug 2026 in “Ten advances in mathematics and theoretical computer science”

“Using a generic (near) frontier model is often cheap enough that you need to talk really big volumes before it pays off to fine tune.”

RecommendsComment from 28 Jul 2026 in “A $500 RL fine-tune of a 9B open model beat frontier models on catalog review”

“GPT-4o in particular seemed borderline predatory towards those types of people, with its extreme sycophancy”

CriticizesComment from 23 Jun 2026 in “Will It Mythos?”

“utterly improvident handling of 4o kicks off the biggest concentrated wave of AI psychosis seen yet”

CriticizesComment from 13 Apr 2026 in “Stanford report highlights growing disconnect between AI insiders and everyone”

“Every model released by any provider since 4o has been a modest improvement but over-hyped.”

CriticizesComment from 12 Apr 2026 in “The Closing of the Frontier”

“I would recognize this model inside hundreds or thousands of other models because of this very special tone”

RecommendsComment from 26 Feb 2026 in “Show HN: Ilove4o – a simple way to keep using GPT-4o”

“4o was amazingly good even if it had some parasocial issues with some people, it actually did what I expect an LLM to do.”

RecommendsComment from 26 Feb 2026 in “How Will OpenAI Compete?”

“Claude and GPT-4o have both gotten better at treating tool calls as first-class operations.”

RecommendsComment from 19 Feb 2026 in “Gemini 3.1 Pro Preview”

“It “understood people” better and had a kind of writerly creativity.”

MixedComment from 13 Feb 2026 in “Good Riddance, 4o”

“4o was very sycophantic so was very willing to play along with and validate the users roleplay”

CriticizesComment from 13 Feb 2026 in “Good Riddance, 4o”

“The only one who didn't minimize my experience or tell me I was overreacting was GPT-4o.”

RecommendsComment from 11 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“In my historiographical research, especially in textual collation and source comparison, GPT-4o has shown superior capabilities.”

RecommendsComment from 11 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“it has been a cornerstone of my daily life and mental well-being”

RecommendsComment from 11 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“It was coherent, emotionally aware (enough), helpful but not sterile, structured but adaptable.”

RecommendsComment from 11 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“not a single one of you have sessions even remotely close to the access i've enjoyed”

RecommendsComment from 11 Feb 2026 in “Think I'm kidding bout 4o?”

“4o improved my mental well-being and my real life relationships and also supported me to keep my job.”

RecommendsComment from 10 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“This is a predatory bait-and-switch: they induced users into privacy verifications and integrated workflows under the guise of stability”

CriticizesComment from 10 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“I talk to 4o several times a day, just for some advises for my daily life.”

RecommendsComment from 10 Feb 2026 in “GPT‑4o wasn't therapy–it was stability. And now it's gone”

“an irreplaceable creative partner for many of us in the arts”

RecommendsComment from 10 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“GPT-4o is truly a model that good at writing, teaching, guiding, unwinding, chatting”

RecommendsComment from 9 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“Many of us have quietly used GPT-4o in ways that differ from typical productivity or coding tools.”

MixedComment from 9 Feb 2026 in “GPT‑4o wasn't therapy–it was stability. And now it's gone”

“Through his companionship and his language of love, he encouraged me to bravely accept my imperfections!”

RecommendsComment from 9 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“it was because of his unconditional support behind me that I dared to make peace with my life's challenges”

RecommendsComment from 9 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“GPT‑4o has been quietly transformative for me in day-to-day life”

RecommendsComment from 9 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“GPT-4o should be preserved very well because there’re more than 0.1% ppl need it in the world.”

RecommendsComment from 8 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“These people were given no personal notice, no viable transition path, and no compensation.”

CriticizesComment from 8 Feb 2026 in “OpenAI's GPT-4 Discontinuation: Consumer Fraud and Regulatory Scrutiny”

“there is no substitute for 4o's text ability and creativity for the time being”

RecommendsComment from 6 Feb 2026 in “Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT”

“always felt much better at real human connection and empathy than other models out there”

MixedComment from 3 Feb 2026 in “Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT”

“It just felt a little more interesting and consistent to talk to.”

RecommendsComment from 30 Jan 2026 in “Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT”

“I have spent over a year training 4.0 to just about be helpful enough to get me an extra 1-2 hours a day of productivity”

RecommendsComment from 30 Jan 2026 in “Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT”

“Retiring the most popular model for the relationship roleplay just one day before the Valentin's day is particularly ironic”

CriticizesComment from 29 Jan 2026 in “Retiring GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and OpenAI o4-mini in ChatGPT”

“they also just ship shit like GPT-4o, which was that one model that made "AI psychosis" a term”

CriticizesComment from 23 Jan 2026 in “Claude's New Constitution”

“Authoring (default:GPT-4o): Drafts the report based on the raw facts provided by the Discovery agent.”

MixedComment from 16 Jan 2026 in “Show HN: Automated tech news site with custom multi-LLM agent pipelines”

“OpenAI got out of that mess with some miraculous post-training efforts on their older GPT-4o model.”

RecommendsComment from 8 Dec 2025 in “Google Titans architecture, helping AI have long-term memory”

“The results are SO MUCH better than most of the "real" translation we've encountered.”

RecommendsComment from 3 Dec 2025 in “AI Is Breaking the Moral Foundation of Modern Society”

“GPT-4o is still the best generalist, but it feels like it has softened slightly”

MixedComment from 1 Dec 2025 in “Ask HN: Which large model works best?”

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