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Google Play Services

Mobile services framework in Phones & tablets

Sandboxed, it lets people run Google-dependent apps with invasive permissions revoked; critics say it still shares data and is tightly integrated.

Sandboxed, it lets people run Google-dependent apps with invasive permissions revoked; critics say it still shares data and is tightly integrated.

95 people gave an opinion

recommend it
11
criticize it
84
approval share
12%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 7 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: not recommended
  4. February 2026: not recommended
  5. March 2026: not recommended
  6. April 2026: recommended
  7. May 2026: recommended
  8. June 2026: recommended
  9. July 2026: recommended
  10. August 2026: recommended
  11. September 2026: recommended
  12. October 2026: not recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 11 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 0.1 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
  • Recommended in 7 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Runs Google-dependent apps in a sandbox

    “can be used without signing into an account and by default have invasive permissions revoked”

    Comment from 17 Jul 2026 in “GrapheneOS recommended for domestic abuse victims”

    “Then you can install GMS into its own user profile with that GMS-dependent app”

    Comment from 6 Aug 2026 in “I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux”

    “I do have sandboxed Google services installed.”

    Comment from 1 Nov 2025 on Hacker News
  • Google parts are modular and optional

    “Most google libraries operate independently of google services and do not depend on them to function.”

    Comment from 18 Jun 2026 in “GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17 and official releases are coming soon”

    “The google move to pull things out of the OS and push them into the play store was welcome”

    Comment from 6 Aug 2026 in “I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Data still reaches Google

    “If the Tiktok app passes your data to Play Services (say, to support notifications with GCM) then it doesn't make any difference that Play Services is nominally "sandboxed".”

    Comment from 17 Feb 2026 in “GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple”

    “apps that require Google Play services (like all the most popular and important apps) and not have Google syphone all your contacts details”

    Comment from 2 Mar 2026 in “/e/OS is a complete "deGoogled", mobile ecosystem”

    “The closed source Google Play SDK and libraries are therefore still part of the loop and have access to what the app can access.”

    Comment from 20 Oct 2026 in “MicroG: Free-libre re-implementation of Google's proprietary Android user space”
  • Android unusable without it

    “effectively building it into the system and totally disregarding the reasoning that people might want to remove or replace Google Play Services”

    Comment from 6 Aug 2026 in “On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails”

    “It's far, far too tightly integrated in a way that it just seems like Android was designed to be unusable without.”

    Comment from 6 Aug 2026 in “I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux”

    “Try disabling Google Play services, or Play Store and watch Fdroid apps break, and the phone malfunction.”

    Comment from 6 Mar 2026 in “Open Camera is a FOSS Camera App for Android”
  • Pushes Google account and service use

    “As it runs through Google Play Services, it's pretty likely they'll boil the frog and make it even harder in the future.”

    Comment from 23 Oct 2026 in “Your Phone Is About to Stop Being Yours: 70 Days Until Lockdown”

    “the Google Play Services dependencies and other walled-garden initiatives from Google will make this less useful”

    Comment from 19 Oct 2026 in “Android apps running native on macOS”

    “It's Play Services that does not support this combination, likely to shepherd you towards Google acoount usage.”

    Comment from 28 Feb 2026 in “Don't use passkeys for encrypting user data”
  • Required for passkeys and ID checks

    “They require Google Wallet with the Google Play Services to prove your id on your desktop computer, it's absolute insanity.”

    Comment from 23 Dec 2025 in “Things I learnt about passkeys when building passkeybot”

    “Passkeys are extremely difficult to support in apps that don't depend on Play Services client libraries.”

    Comment from 20 Feb 2026 in “F-Droid: "Keep Android Open"”

What people said

40 of the 116 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“Google services run with system privileges and can collect all kinds of data including location data”

CriticizesComment from 31 Oct 2026 in “Molly (Signal fork) has not been updated since 3 months and is vulnerable”

“Not when they make it impossible to use government and banking services without Google play services.”

CriticizesComment from 24 Oct 2026 in “Today, we hacked what we'd set out to hack: the iPhone”

“As it runs through Google Play Services, it's pretty likely they'll boil the frog and make it even harder in the future.”

CriticizesComment from 23 Oct 2026 in “Your Phone Is About to Stop Being Yours: 70 Days Until Lockdown”

“The closed source Google Play SDK and libraries are therefore still part of the loop and have access to what the app can access.”

CriticizesComment from 20 Oct 2026 in “MicroG: Free-libre re-implementation of Google's proprietary Android user space”

“the Google Play Services dependencies and other walled-garden initiatives from Google will make this less useful”

CriticizesComment from 19 Oct 2026 in “Android apps running native on macOS”

“I wish European govs would stop requiring Google Play services in Android phone and provided their own solution”

CriticizesComment from 12 Oct 2026 in “Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?”

“pulling more and more parts of the Android experience into their proprietary Google Play Services”

CriticizesComment from 26 Sep 2026 in “F-Droid 2.0”

“Letting Google handle push notifications is different from using them as your location provider”

MixedComment from 4 Sep 2026 in “How Fairphone built the Fairphone Gen 6+”

“Google's spyware (Play Services) ceases to work normally and Graphene had to patch it to run as an unprivileged app.”

CriticizesComment from 2 Sep 2026 in “GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all”

“Google Play services is nearly entirely for using Google services rather than functionality independent of Google services.”

CriticizesComment from 19 Aug 2026 in “I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux”

“Then you can install GMS into its own user profile with that GMS-dependent app”

RecommendsComment from 6 Aug 2026 in “I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux”

“The google move to pull things out of the OS and push them into the play store was welcome”

MixedComment from 6 Aug 2026 in “I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux”

“effectively building it into the system and totally disregarding the reasoning that people might want to remove or replace Google Play Services”

CriticizesComment from 6 Aug 2026 in “On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails”

“I did run it for a few months with/without play services.”

MixedComment from 6 Aug 2026 in “I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux”

“It's far, far too tightly integrated in a way that it just seems like Android was designed to be unusable without.”

CriticizesComment from 6 Aug 2026 in “I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux”

“It should be something on-device as part of AOSP, not something that further entrenches Google.”

CriticizesComment from 30 Jul 2026 in “Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year”

“functionally the core component of any Android device for the near entirety of typical use-cases”

CriticizesComment from 25 Jul 2026 in “Android May Soon Restrict On-Device ADB”

“can be used without signing into an account and by default have invasive permissions revoked”

RecommendsComment from 17 Jul 2026 in “GrapheneOS recommended for domestic abuse victims”

“Google Play services make it a bit more difficult because the app might marshall the network request through that”

CriticizesComment from 11 Jul 2026 in “An Update on the scraper situation”

“Most google libraries operate independently of google services and do not depend on them to function.”

MixedComment from 18 Jun 2026 in “GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17 and official releases are coming soon”

“I will pick sandboxed Play any day.”

RecommendsComment from 21 May 2026 in “Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone”

“if you use the Play Services on GrapheneOS, you're still locked out”

MixedComment from 9 May 2026 in “Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users”

“Google can change it, tighten it, or kill it at any time, with no OS update required and no consent needed.”

CriticizesComment from 28 Apr 2026 in “Phone is about to stop being yours”

“I've seen some guides for installing Play Services in Waydroid, but personally I'm not interested.”

MixedComment from 4 Apr 2026 in “Run Linux containers on Android, no root required”

“Google Play can communicate and thus share data with other apps regardless of the user's settings”

CriticizesComment from 23 Mar 2026 in “GrapheneOS will remain usable by anyone without requiring personal information”

“Try disabling Google Play services, or Play Store and watch Fdroid apps break, and the phone malfunction.”

CriticizesComment from 6 Mar 2026 in “Open Camera is a FOSS Camera App for Android”

“apps that require Google Play services (like all the most popular and important apps) and not have Google syphone all your contacts details”

CriticizesComment from 2 Mar 2026 in “/e/OS is a complete "deGoogled", mobile ecosystem”

“It's Play Services that does not support this combination, likely to shepherd you towards Google acoount usage.”

CriticizesComment from 28 Feb 2026 in “Don't use passkeys for encrypting user data”

“you're dependent on Google Play Services for payments, push notifications, and maps — all closed.”

CriticizesComment from 21 Feb 2026 in “F-Droid: "Keep Android Open"”

“Passkeys are extremely difficult to support in apps that don't depend on Play Services client libraries.”

CriticizesComment from 20 Feb 2026 in “F-Droid: "Keep Android Open"”

“If the Tiktok app passes your data to Play Services (say, to support notifications with GCM) then it doesn't make any difference that Play Services is nominally "sandboxed".”

CriticizesComment from 17 Feb 2026 in “GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple”

“they somehow also always seem to require that you have something like Google play services running”

CriticizesComment from 12 Feb 2026 in “Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass”

“Google went out of their way to make it impossible to customize google-services.json at runtime.”

CriticizesComment from 9 Feb 2026 in “Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month”

“They require Google Wallet with the Google Play Services to prove your id on your desktop computer, it's absolute insanity.”

CriticizesComment from 23 Dec 2025 in “Things I learnt about passkeys when building passkeybot”

“Any app which asks google play services for location will automatically turn on location and Bluetooth.”

CriticizesComment from 2 Dec 2025 in “Ask HN: Do you think you have your location services on?”

“google play services is capable of acting as a transparent proxy so remember you MUST also disables google services framework / play services internet access”

CriticizesComment from 27 Nov 2025 in “Don't Download Apps”

“All of the code for this (including AWDL, at least to an extent) is implemented as part of Play Services, unfortunately.”

CriticizesComment from 22 Nov 2025 in “Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10”

“Installing Google Services defeats the point imo as it opens multiple security holes in the fortress.”

CriticizesComment from 18 Nov 2025 in “Comparing Android Alternatives: Lineage OS, ∕E∕OS, and Graphene OS”

“Many banks rely on the google play integrity api sadly”

MixedComment from 2 Nov 2025 on Hacker News

“I do have sandboxed Google services installed.”

MixedComment from 1 Nov 2025 on Hacker News

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