Google Pixel

“Flagship phone turned into a useless device after 18 months of ownership due to a manufacturing issue and I've got no recourse.”

“One of the nice things with GrapheneOS on Pixels is that you can even pick up the latest Pixel 10a for ~400 Euro”

“KaBuM!, Intec Store, Performance Solutions all charge significantly more with a 10a being more than double than from Google.”

“Google gets $1k or thereabouts for every GrapheneOS install which they can use to further advance the cause of mass surveillance”

“I exclusively charge my Pixel 10 XL Pro (25w+) phone on a wireless charger now in the car and at my house and really like it”

“99.9% od the code GrapheneOS uses and 100% of hardware (including one like Titan security chip handling storage encryption and key store) is from Google.”

“less RAM, performance scraping backwards, crippled/lost features, a camera system that captures stuttering audio and video imperfectly often”

“Pixel 8 through Pixel 10a are also the recommended devices for GrapheneOS due to 7 years of support from launch”

“We don't recommend buying a 7th gen Pixel anymore”

“The product design and hardware teams have both tried to one up each other and who can deliver the bigger pile of steaming crap.”

“it was locked by the carrier entirely and though unlocked the carrier simply decided to not allow their pixels to be flashed”

“Long story short I went from flaghships to 2nd hand few generations olds Pixel 8 (cheapest I could try GrapheneOS on) and I don't regret that decision at all.”

“I'd just recommend to get one of the previous-gen pixel devices. They are a lot cheaper than the Motorola smartphone coming out.”

“unlockable bootloader and almost guaranteed support from pretty much every major privacy-related android fork”

“the AI-enhanced zoom goes up to 100x and is actually pretty handy for working out what tiny things in the distance actually are”

“The original isn't as blurry as the preview shown - there's still a lot of image stacking happening and it's often very decent in my experience.”

“I've used my Pixel 8 with a USB hub and a Mediatek MT7921AU USB 3.0 WiFi card in monitor mode with kismet for the ultimate mobile wardriving setup.”

“none have provided the hardware-based security features or driver/firmware update support needed by GrapheneOS beyond Pixels”

“I am just not sure how one justifies picking this over a Pixel device with GrapheneOS installed in terms of value.”

“using a modern device with 7 years of support, such as a pixel or iphone, will be far better in the long term”

“hours of use per 30 minutes of charging went up from 4.6 for the P8 to 6.3 for the P9(p) and 6.2 or 7 for the P10 and P10p”

“Google has complete control over Pixel supply chain and they can make their phones with all bells and whistles for their ends”

“you still depend on Google good will allowing the pixel devices to be just open enough so that Graphene can be installed on them”

“Pixels are the only secure and open android devices that could work for the project and meet the requirements.”

“Pixel 8 is also the first generation of Pixels to be officially supported, both security and OS updates, for 7 years”

“Then Google switched to a pretty bad Exynos based SoC and consistently shipped underwhelming hardware at price points aligned with Apple”

“Pixels have unlocked bootloaders and Android is open source to the point where third parties can and do make alternative OS distributions.”

“respectable security practices and still respects users enough support them choosing to modify the software on their devices”

“I don't remember any issues with moving? I think the only bothersome thing was re-authentication in some apps after the move.”

“Many Android phones do not have a separate secure enclave (outside Pixel and IISC Samsung flagship and A5x range)”

“I lost a restocking fee when I bought a used "unlocked" Pixel. Turned out it was not SIM locked, but it was impossible to unlock the bootloader.”

“Pixels are really great despite being from Google. I hope they will continue to make them unlockable/relockable.”

“Pixels continue to have baseband and OOBConfig exploits that allow pushing zero interaction updates, or system memory access.”

“this issue hasn't been reported on after the Pixel 7, so someone buying a Pixel 10 today probably has no reason to have that as a purchase consideration”

“For a time I was using one of my older Pixel phones as a WiFi extender to improve signal in my home's basement. Worked like a charm.”

“My non-tech brother has the latest Google Pixel phone and he enthusiastically uses Gemini for many interactions with his phone.”

“Pixel devices are probably still the best Android offering, but I originally got into the ecosystem because it was less confined and that appears to be changing”

“It's the only available phone hardware that provides full bootloader unlock capabilities AND suitable security protections”

“Google takes security seriously. There's a reason GrapheneOS is only supported on Pixel devices currently as well, because of certain hardware security features.”

“Funny how Google is paying people to find exploits in their product, and also pays people to ignore those vulnerability reports.”