GNU Taler

“the payment trail is solved by paying anonymously with Taler”

“Tokens in the Taler wallet are decoupled from current system and cannot be taken away without shutting whole system down.”

“It doesn't even need to be decentralized: GNU Taler is one example that gets posted here a lot.”

“Call it a demo of our micro-payment service? Try paying with the Taler wallet, the gratis demo currency "KUDOS" will work.”

“Taler promises to protect the buyer's privacy, not the merchant's.”

“From political authorities POV it's a solution in search of a problem”

“You don't have to trust anyone with GNU Taler as it is only a free software technology”

“the blind signatures and online model require less trust in the platform”

“GNU Taler seems more like an expiring invoice that requires paying in a specific timeframe.”

“The centralised state-run exchange that you have to connect to to make the software useful?”

“if they ban books about Tiananmen Square, and this system gets introduced”

“I pointed out the risks that come with additional government surveillance of payments”

“This feels much closer to cash in practice, which also comes from banks, yet I’d say it’s compatible with privacy.”

“it has to be permanently connected to the Internet and it *expires* if disconnected for too long”

“Taler gives payers privacy and doesn’t make things any worse for payees than they already are”

“It's not controlled by a US company, this is also a pretty big improvement.”

“It's a improvement to existing payment systems in the framework and limitations of existing payment transactions.”

“blind signatures are used to create tokens, so the issuer doesn't know which coin was issued to which person.”

“claiming buyer privacy when the money ultimately has to come from a bank transaction”

“the Taler architecture would require you to pay cash into an exchange”

“Taler is privacy-preserving for the payer, but not for the payee.”

“AFAIK you still can't give 20€ to your friend without the exchange knowing and approving”

“Also the funds have an expiration date (forced spending). Who is this for?”

“The currently mainstream payment solution hurt privacy even more than the current ad tracking. We'd need something like GNU Taler for that.”

“It's possible to build a payer-anonymous payment system based on regular centralized databases just fine, see e.g. GNU Taler.”

“the solution already exists: It's still relatively small scale but GNU Taler is live in Switzerland”

“They have significant investment and institutional interest notably from the EU and established organisations such as NLNet.”

“it's a digital coin that has been in development for a long time and is currently starting to see real use”

“privacy-preserving for consumers, non-blockchain digital cash, and keeps merchant activity taxable”

“If keeps the payer anonymous while letting the government know how much the payee received for tax purposes.”

“it's probably easier to convince a government to adopt GNU Taler than Monero”

“designed to be anonymous for the payer, but payees are always identified”

“use a micropayment system like GNU Taler to pay the websites directly”

“That is a (much better) ecosystem that someone must host and provide.”

“Privacy of cash but the required traceability for merchants.”

“I'd rather have a GNU Taler based system (private for consumers, transparent for the business)”

“the world's first consumer protecting payment system that extends the traditional system”

“They are funded by EU grants, and have a funding program going to stimulate the ecosystem.”

“GNU Taler is a working implementation of "digital cash" in the spirit of Ecash.”

“there are GNU Taler/Chaumian cash type systems that inherit the efficiency of centralized systems with an added privacy benefit.”