Gemini 4 Carbon

“I have found it to be excellent for my tasks”

“It gets so stupid it's frustratingly useless when it does not follow instructions give just a few prompts back.”

“their model itself is low quality and, if I'm being honest, has the promotion-oriented measurable-output bias”

“It's announced with trust me bro benches, no you can't verify it yourself, this might not even be the model you get.”

“it's like barely cheaper?”

“Carbon being significantly better while being the same cost is pretty exciting to me”

“I have been using it on the $20 and still have 25% left”

“It's terrible. I tried it via API in OpenCode. It's so slow, and the lack of reasoning output makes it feel even slower.”

“I use it purely for finding stuff in text documents and OCR, at which it excels”

“The benchmarks of a model that hasn't been released yet are definitely suspicious.”

“it feels like Opus 5.5 (I do not think about limits)”

“it literally came up with a non-existent machine that supposedly met all my requirements”

“I also found that it ignores other instructions sporadically”

“But with this bs of not making it even public, pushing off release of newer models late, I lost faith in Google.”

“the limits are dreadfully low”

“the numbers presented in the announcement, which are pretty great”

“It's sad to see Carbon releasing at the same pricing because that implies Google is planning to do the thing everyone is doing”

“they're ahead of Fable 5.1 and GTP 6 Astra in 15 of the 17 benchmarks”

“still have 25% quota left”

“not coming anywhere near hitting the limit”

“The API variant seems to be untouched.”

“They nerfed it heavily through the subscription, together with the UI and Pricing changes”

“I'm not a fan of Google just announcing benchmarks for models which won't get into public hands for eternity. It's kinda useless.”

“Otherwise cool feature, I recommend.”

“crank out code with argon/carbon as orchestrator”

“I use Carbon heavily and am quite happy with it.”

“It's the speed of these gemini models that I'm most impressed with.”

“I applaud that Google is making state-of-the-art models”

“Doesn't Google have a particularly bad record recently at making their models publicly available?”

“scores better in ~every test”

“an announcement for a product that no one can actually try outside of a tiny circle of users”

“the model is actually worth what they were saying on AA. It's just that it is not available to people”

“No, what Google does (or rather fails to do) in its rollouts does not compare to OpenAI/Anthropic.”

“If you try it'll throw up a prompt telling you to use some initiative you can't use or afford while the provider collects the findings.”

“it's always something that's not available right now or 'not yet available in your country'”

“Seems great? Is Google back in the ring? Now they "just" need a competent harness...”

“more capable and same price”

“$2/$10 for input and output even if just for introductory pricing is an incredible deal”

“I'm not a big fan of their trend of talking about a new model and not releasing it for a while.”

“I'm happy there seems to be some progress”