Gemini 4 Argon

“I now asked Argon for a pretty elaborate review and it used only 2% so I will be giving it another shot.”

“the limits are dreadfully low. Five messages on medium is already enough to trigger a 4 hour cooldown”

“4 messages on medium triggers the cooldown. The utility isn't really relevant if you're on the Pro plan.”

“I am having a very positive experience with Argon: since it was launched I accessed it through Ultragravity”

“it's become my daily driver for anything requiring moderate smarts or lots of prose”

“it's noticeably better than pretty much everything in my own weird game based benchmark”

“took weeks to "come out" after their public announcement and when it finally did, paying Google AI plan users couldn't access Argon”

“I don't find Argon to be usable for any big tasks because it really does a big mess every now and then”

“The model is good. But... the way google handled introduction of Argon is a great reminder that your business should stay far away from their products.”

“For Argon, it's natural language writing and everything that hooks up to Google, e.g. search and maps-based itinerary planning.”

“it's a joke of an implementation. You have to manually approve each tool use each and every time with no way to "Always allow"”

“My impression is not good. Maybe it's due to first-day high user counts, but it seems to be doing worse than 3.8 flash in some coding tasks.”

“this sort of technology opens up a universe of bespoke micro-explainers and apps that meet you exactly where you are”

“Gemini almost always answers accurately and very close to how helpful they are in Anglosphere related topics”

“experiment with a fairly open platform that may play, as a category, a pivotable role in humanity”

“Outside of that, behavior is quite good, a bit slow, and definitely different than both GPTs and Claudes”

“this is the first time I get something that, while still needing some tweaks, basically looks like the patch sheet”

“But you don’t create a broken or confusing experience for the people who haven’t been added to the rollout group yet.”

“argon seems to be really good at spatial reasoning, it's catching really minute details”

“This is my new favorite general-purpose/non-coding model. It's surprising how good this thing is”

“It’s mildly impressive, but Google should be wiping the floor with its competition”

“It shows a good improvement on my COCO object detection benchmark: 0.504 mAP zero-shot.”

“Argon 4 takes a lot of precautions to avoid crashing against walls and other objects”

“asked it to rewrite for natural reading and clarity, and got the current README. I'm impressed!”

“It feels like it's trained in multiple languages from the ground up rather than as an afterthought.”

“Considering Opus 5.5 only gets a 4% on the test compared to Gemini’s 20%, that’s actually pretty incredible.”

“I'd put it at B tier, just under gpt 6.1 sol. It isn't A tier like Opus 5.5 or Astra.”

“The language appears much more natural and elegant than what even Opus 5.5 or Astra do.”

“Google's benchmark results are not useful at all. If you look at their methodology, they only present the model's performance at the Max reasoning levels.”

“Setting terrible guardrails, banchmaxxing, having 5 different approved ways of starting with models where 3 of them will be obsolete in 6m”

“You have the established company with tons of traininv resources at tgeir disposal from all their services”

“Can they now go hire some really good information architects and designers and come up with a cohesive user experience please.”

“This release is behind the most recent models so no leapfrogging here more like catching up (barely)”

“its outcome is usually better than mine and the cost to verify the outcome is significantly cheaper than doing the task by myself”

“The capacity limitations I've experienced with them in the past have been deeply problematic.”

“Hopefully, Argon isn't as prone to satisficing and premature convergence compared to its predecessor”

“nothing about this announcement gives me confidence that google is back on track as a model provider”

“The ~200% improvement over the next nearest competitor on Harvey's Legal Benchmark is astounding.”

“Within one question of their web interface, it has lost context and asks you to clarify what you are talking about.”

“Hate to say i will never be touching this model for anything except for youtube video understanding”