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Framework Laptop 12

Repairable, upgradeable, Linux-friendly convertible that people choose over Apple laptops for repairability and openness. Critics say the price is hard to justify.

Summarized from 156 comments.

Repairable, upgradeable, Linux-friendly convertible that people choose over Apple laptops for repairability and openness. Critics say the price is hard to justify.

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Why people love it

  • Repairable and upgradeable hardware · 7

    repairability and not being in the apple ecosystem are two things I value enough that it makes sense for me to go with Framework

    May 2026 · comment

    Being able to have parts on hand that can easily be swapped out sounds a lot better/easier than dealing Apple repair practices.

    Mar 2026 · comment

    the Framework 12 allows you to upgrade components including a DDR5 SODIMM, 2230-sized NVMe SSD

    May 2026 · comment
  • Good Linux support · 7

    Framework supports Linux and is still providing hardware/software upgrade paths for their old machines.

    Apr 2026 · comment

    The point of the Framework is to run Linux, and not to be part of Apple's ecosystem.

    May 2026 · comment

    You buy a Framework for repairability, flawless Linux support, ability to tinker

    May 2026 · comment
  • Alternative to Apple's ecosystem · 3

    repairability and not being in the apple ecosystem are two things I value enough that it makes sense for me to go with Framework

    May 2026 · comment

    The point of the Framework is to run Linux, and not to be part of Apple's ecosystem.

    May 2026 · comment

    It is a real option, in fact the only option for many who can't tolerate macOS

    May 2026 · comment
  • Compact, portable touchscreen convertible · 4

    the framework 12 is perhaps the best convertible Linux laptop in its price range

    May 2026 · comment

    it is a touchscreen, has a 360° hinge, and is more repairable and upgradeable

    May 2026 · comment

    I have a Framework 12 and I absolutely love it. It's cute and super portable

    May 2026 · comment

What people warn about

  • Price hard to justify · 6

    it's really hard to justify the cost of a Framework compared to a similarly priced Macbook

    Jun 2026 · comment

    It's hard to justify the price unless you put value to Framework's gimmicks and mission.

    May 2026 · comment

    Just because you can upgrade a Framework laptop it doesn't make it a better value over the long term.

    May 2026 · comment
  • Compromises on size and performance · 4

    Now that maintainability and customizability does come at a compromise to at least one of cost, bulk, or performance.

    May 2026 · comment

    Modular hardware is a great concept, but local model development lives and dies by memory bandwidth.

    May 2026 · comment

    The piece the Framework 12 and Neo are missing is the weight and thickness

    May 2026 · comment
  • Weak screen, speakers and battery · 4

    VRR does not and so the panel can't clock down to save battery life when you're just idling staring at a terminal

    May 2026 · comment

    The 12's base specs and more than that the experience is pretty bad. The screen and speakers are terrible.

    May 2026 · comment

    Tiny screens. Imagine running a browser on a 13" screen, where part of screen space is used by taskbar

    May 2026 · comment
  • Repairs depend on parts and pairing · 2

    If your Framework laptop dies, you have to debug the problem yourself, wait for parts to arrive, and pray that the part you ordered is the only part you need.

    May 2026 · comment

    It's still a 6 on the scale, and parts pairing, third party restrictions are still in place.

    May 2026 · comment

What hackers pick instead

Every quote

The 40 most detailed of 156 comments. Each links to the original.

  1. repairability and not being in the apple ecosystem are two things I value enough that it makes sense for me to go with Framework

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  2. Being able to have parts on hand that can easily be swapped out sounds a lot better/easier than dealing Apple repair practices.

    Recommends · Mar 2026 · in “Apple Introduces MacBook Neo”

  3. Now that maintainability and customizability does come at a compromise to at least one of cost, bulk, or performance.

    Mixed · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  4. Framework supports Linux and is still providing hardware/software upgrade paths for their old machines.

    Recommends · Apr 2026 · in “When the cheap one is the cool one”

  5. Modular hardware is a great concept, but local model development lives and dies by memory bandwidth.

    Mixed · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  6. Would love to see a haptic trackpad one day, as well as a screen that covers a larger color space.

    Mixed · Aug 2026 · in “Framework Refreshes 12" Laptop”

  7. the Framework 12 allows you to upgrade components including a DDR5 SODIMM, 2230-sized NVMe SSD

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  8. it's really hard to justify the cost of a Framework compared to a similarly priced Macbook

    Mixed · Jun 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  9. you really, really, really want to be able to separately repair the screen and the ports

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  10. It's hard to justify the price unless you put value to Framework's gimmicks and mission.

    Mixed · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  11. the tinkerability and repairability win over raw specs for what I actually use it for

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  12. The point of the Framework is to run Linux, and not to be part of Apple's ecosystem.

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  13. You buy a Framework for repairability, flawless Linux support, ability to tinker

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  14. the framework 12 is perhaps the best convertible Linux laptop in its price range

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  15. It is a real option, in fact the only option for many who can't tolerate macOS

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  16. which I don't mind in exchange for repairability and hassle-free Linux install

    Recommends · Oct 2026 · in “The Curse of Soldered RAM”

  17. it is a touchscreen, has a 360° hinge, and is more repairable and upgradeable

    Mixed · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  18. I have a Framework 12 and I absolutely love it. It's cute and super portable

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  19. The piece the Framework 12 and Neo are missing is the weight and thickness

    Mixed · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  20. Linux friendly and you get software updates until the hardware dies?

    Recommends · Mar 2026 · in “Apple Introduces MacBook Neo”

  21. they've gotten pretty close to a tablet with the Framework Laptop 12

    Recommends · Apr 2026 · in “Framework Laptop 13 Pro”

  22. If your Framework laptop dies, you have to debug the problem yourself, wait for parts to arrive, and pray that the part you ordered is the only part you need.

    Criticizes · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  23. VRR does not and so the panel can't clock down to save battery life when you're just idling staring at a terminal

    Criticizes · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  24. The 12's base specs and more than that the experience is pretty bad. The screen and speakers are terrible.

    Criticizes · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  25. Tiny screens. Imagine running a browser on a 13" screen, where part of screen space is used by taskbar

    Criticizes · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  26. Just because you can upgrade a Framework laptop it doesn't make it a better value over the long term.

    Criticizes · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  27. I don't see the value in the Framework 12 over a MacBook Neo if someone isn't choosing by OS first.

    Criticizes · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  28. It's actually the same size and weight as the 13 so there's no real reason to use it when traveling

    Criticizes · Apr 2026 · in “When the cheap one is the cool one”

  29. So it's reasonable to ask $300 extra dollar (on top of $500) for using the free linux over macOS?

    Criticizes · Jun 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  30. yikes that in a minimal configuration costs ~700 euros or whatever the currency is by default.

    Criticizes · Jul 2026 · in “Reviving a 15-year-old netbook with Arch Linux”

  31. It's still a 6 on the scale, and parts pairing, third party restrictions are still in place.

    Criticizes · May 2026 · in “Jeff Geerling: The Framework 12 is dead. Apple killed it [video]”

  32. If people like us who understand the long term value of having these things available don't buy (and encourage others to buy), then we can't have nice things.

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  33. There are things I dislike about it (placement of Airplane Mode key, if not its very existence), but I can still call it my favorite laptop ever.

    Mixed · Nov 2025 · in “Laptops with Stickers”

  34. I have bought multiple Framework computers and I continue to be a fan, not because it is the best in any single category.

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  35. You will get the most out of it if you spend time customizing it, altering it, upgrading it, understanding it, etc.

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  36. It gives a real-computer experience, with some compromises for size, but I'm pretty sure that's a net win.

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  37. Framework will be recurring excitment when your Godson gets to switch to a brand spanking new component

    Recommends · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  38. It is such a shame, too, because what Framework has achieved at this pricepoint should be commended.

    Mixed · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

  39. The framework 12 is comparable in cost to a macbook neo, plus can work with a stylus as a tablet.

    Recommends · Apr 2026 · in “Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one”

  40. Framework has it's value for ppl that are afraid dropping their laptops/ breaking the screen.

    Mixed · May 2026 · in “It's hard to justify buying a Framework 12”

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