Flock Safety
Surveillance network in Privacy & security
Recommenders point to audit trails, crime-solving help and accountability; critics say it enables mass tracking and abuse, with misuse cases and data concerns.
Recommenders point to audit trails, crime-solving help and accountability; critics say it enables mass tracking and abuse, with misuse cases and data concerns.
72 people gave an opinion
- recommend it
- 11
- criticize it
- 61
- approval share
- 15%
Recommended in 8 of 13 months
- November 2025: not recommended
- December 2025: recommended
- January 2026: not recommended
- February 2026: recommended
- March 2026: recommended
- April 2026: recommended
- May 2026: not recommended
- June 2026: recommended
- July 2026: recommended
- August 2026: recommended
- September 2026: not recommended
- October 2026: recommended
- November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)
Why it doesn’t carry the badge
- 11 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
- 0.1 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
- Recommended in 8 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.
The same three rules apply to every product, and the badge can’t be bought. How the badge works
What people say about it
The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.
Why people recommend it
Each mark is one comment
Audit trails and accountability
“Some tools (Flock) can have audit trails aka information access - and also therefore limitations”
Comment from 6 Aug 2026 in “Cops Used Flock to Track a Man Across State Lines for a Pretextual Weed Search” “They seem to be the most auditable and accountable.”
Comment from 13 Jul 2026 in “LAPD lets contract with surveillance giant Flock expire” Works and helps solve crimes
“A major issue with surveillance tech like this is that it actually works.”
Comment from 3 Oct 2026 in “Federal judge calls Flock 'indiscriminate mass surveillance'” “Flock has been a key contributor in solving numerous crimes.”
Comment from 15 Apr 2026 in “Stop Flock”
What people warn about
Each mark is one comment
Enables abuse and mass tracking
“Flock is both making it happen and making it clear that they are fine with enabling bad actors to take advantage of it.”
Comment from 28 May 2026 in “Legislation Killed Would Have Effectively Blocked Police LPR, Including Flock” “What makes mass surveillance systems such as Flock, Ring, etc., incredibly objectionable isn't really the cameras.”
Comment from 9 Sep 2026 in “Flock Wants a Closely Surveilled World with No Exit” “there is potential for abuse, but that's a risk we're willing to impose on society to make some money”
Comment from 5 Sep 2026 in “Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traffic stop” - Comment from 20 Jul 2026 in “DeKalb deputy charged with Flock camera misuse; more Georgia officers fired”
- Comment from 31 May 2026 in “Deflock hits 100k ALPRs Mapped in USA”
- Comment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Flock CEO: "They're Gonna Enforce Immigration No Matter What Flock Does"”
Identifiable data held in databases
“The data is identifiable. Just because it's gated by some transformation doesn't mean they are magically not holding my identifiable information.”
Comment from 13 Jul 2026 in “LAPD lets contract with surveillance giant Flock expire” “it's a giant database of photos, locations, times, license plate information, and likely a lot more”
Comment from 14 Apr 2026 in “I wrote to Flock's privacy contact to opt out of their domestic spying program” Transparency gaps and data leaks
“their "Transparency Portal" is... not. I know of at least three agencies in my County who are using Flock who are not listed on the Transparency Portal...”
Comment from 6 Aug 2026 in “Cities Are Ditching Flock, Replacing It with Axon License Plate Readers” “Flock had some prompts (/queries or something like that) leak and apparently something as innocuous as visiting multiple gas stations after hours”
Comment from 29 Aug 2026 in “Flock CEO's Address Spread Online as Surveillance Backlash Explodes” Ineffective and broken at concept
“Flock didn't stop the shooting, nor apprehend the killer alive. There's zero utility in post-hoc surveillance to the taxpayer.”
Comment from 19 Dec 2025 in “Hated AI company finds MIT killer” “flock is broken at a conceptual level and that means really no amount of implementation details will fix it”
Comment from 26 Oct 2026 in “In Leaked Audio, Flock CEO Tells Cops Backlash to the Company Isn't Real”
What people said
40 of the 81 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.
“flock is broken at a conceptual level and that means really no amount of implementation details will fix it”
“Axon and Flock buying off town officials is just educational trips for potential customers.”
“There's nothing better about working at Flock or X or Kalshi or Palantir”
“The flock system is being abused by every organization across the entire country”
“Flock's other major implementation issues and other features that have nothing to do with ALPR”
“A major issue with surveillance tech like this is that it actually works.”
“a slick commercial product consciously designed to make its users trust it and use it more and rely on it more”
“What makes mass surveillance systems such as Flock, Ring, etc., incredibly objectionable isn't really the cameras.”
“there is potential for abuse, but that's a risk we're willing to impose on society to make some money”
“Flock had some prompts (/queries or something like that) leak and apparently something as innocuous as visiting multiple gas stations after hours”
“After watching the public flaying of Flock, they're certainly welcome to step into the spotlight next”
“Flock was essentially a data warehouse with dark patterns around sharing settings”
“People cite Flock as an example of this.”
“Some tools (Flock) can have audit trails aka information access - and also therefore limitations”
“Flock appears to have been a way for them to work around all of that and just answer any question they had willy-nilly.”
“their "Transparency Portal" is... not. I know of at least three agencies in my County who are using Flock who are not listed on the Transparency Portal...”
“the tool empowers such easy abuse of liberty that people make no efforts to hide what they're doing”
“The data is identifiable. Just because it's gated by some transformation doesn't mean they are magically not holding my identifiable information.”
“As opposed to their mayor/governor/president, who they not only can easily find out who it is if they don't already”
“They seem to be the most auditable and accountable.”
“The problem with Flock is not who owns the data, it's the potential for abuse.”
“offer data laundering so that organizations that shouldn't be talking can communicate”
“Flock operates a service that undermines and endangers society as well as innocent individuals”
“If this for some reason fails, misconfiguration or unexpected shutdown, you could have a failure that's hard to track or debug”
“Flocks only use is for the systematic tracking of people for use by police and government agencies”
“Flock is both making it happen and making it clear that they are fine with enabling bad actors to take advantage of it.”
“the people deploying these cameras have no idea the feeds are being resold to Flock”
“Flock has been a key contributor in solving numerous crimes.”
“it's a giant database of photos, locations, times, license plate information, and likely a lot more”
“the effect on my follow-through has been significant”
“Companies like Discord, Flock, and Palantir get a lot of flak because they deserve it.”
“I don't think Flock is this Big EviL coMpaNy you are making them out to be.”
“You can even skip the investigator in a lot of places, thanks to Flock. Dystopian.”
“it makes sense to use "flock" to prevent overlapping executions of frequently running jobs”
“Flock didn't stop the shooting, nor apprehend the killer alive. There's zero utility in post-hoc surveillance to the taxpayer.”
“With ALPR's police have immediate access without warrants to the nationwide network.”
“see what they're working on, track your intentions against specific goals”
“They might record someone's car being near some place where maybe something illegal happened.”
“once someone has a hammer, especially one that grants them this much extra power, they will go looking for nails”
“All the coverage lately on things like Flock and other privacy-reducing panopticon startups always softball the topic so hard.”
Counts come from 1,795,640 Hacker News comments, November 2025 to November 2026. How we count. Report a mistake.