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Surveillance network in Privacy & security

Recommenders point to audit trails, crime-solving help and accountability; critics say it enables mass tracking and abuse, with misuse cases and data concerns.

Recommenders point to audit trails, crime-solving help and accountability; critics say it enables mass tracking and abuse, with misuse cases and data concerns.

72 people gave an opinion

recommend it
11
criticize it
61
approval share
15%
Each figure is one person. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 8 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: not recommended
  2. December 2025: recommended
  3. January 2026: not recommended
  4. February 2026: recommended
  5. March 2026: recommended
  6. April 2026: recommended
  7. May 2026: not recommended
  8. June 2026: recommended
  9. July 2026: recommended
  10. August 2026: recommended
  11. September 2026: not recommended
  12. October 2026: recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Why it doesn’t carry the badge

  • 11 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 0.1 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
  • Recommended in 8 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Audit trails and accountability

    “Some tools (Flock) can have audit trails aka information access - and also therefore limitations”

    Comment from 6 Aug 2026 in “Cops Used Flock to Track a Man Across State Lines for a Pretextual Weed Search”

    “They seem to be the most auditable and accountable.”

    Comment from 13 Jul 2026 in “LAPD lets contract with surveillance giant Flock expire”
  • Works and helps solve crimes

    “A major issue with surveillance tech like this is that it actually works.”

    Comment from 3 Oct 2026 in “Federal judge calls Flock 'indiscriminate mass surveillance'”

    “Flock has been a key contributor in solving numerous crimes.”

    Comment from 15 Apr 2026 in “Stop Flock”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Enables abuse and mass tracking

    “Flock is both making it happen and making it clear that they are fine with enabling bad actors to take advantage of it.”

    Comment from 28 May 2026 in “Legislation Killed Would Have Effectively Blocked Police LPR, Including Flock”

    “What makes mass surveillance systems such as Flock, Ring, etc., incredibly objectionable isn't really the cameras.”

    Comment from 9 Sep 2026 in “Flock Wants a Closely Surveilled World with No Exit”

    “there is potential for abuse, but that's a risk we're willing to impose on society to make some money”

    Comment from 5 Sep 2026 in “Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traffic stop”
  • Identifiable data held in databases

    “The data is identifiable. Just because it's gated by some transformation doesn't mean they are magically not holding my identifiable information.”

    Comment from 13 Jul 2026 in “LAPD lets contract with surveillance giant Flock expire”

    “it's a giant database of photos, locations, times, license plate information, and likely a lot more”

    Comment from 14 Apr 2026 in “I wrote to Flock's privacy contact to opt out of their domestic spying program”
  • Transparency gaps and data leaks

    “their "Transparency Portal" is... not. I know of at least three agencies in my County who are using Flock who are not listed on the Transparency Portal...”

    Comment from 6 Aug 2026 in “Cities Are Ditching Flock, Replacing It with Axon License Plate Readers”

    “Flock had some prompts (/queries or something like that) leak and apparently something as innocuous as visiting multiple gas stations after hours”

    Comment from 29 Aug 2026 in “Flock CEO's Address Spread Online as Surveillance Backlash Explodes”
  • Ineffective and broken at concept

    “Flock didn't stop the shooting, nor apprehend the killer alive. There's zero utility in post-hoc surveillance to the taxpayer.”

    Comment from 19 Dec 2025 in “Hated AI company finds MIT killer”

    “flock is broken at a conceptual level and that means really no amount of implementation details will fix it”

    Comment from 26 Oct 2026 in “In Leaked Audio, Flock CEO Tells Cops Backlash to the Company Isn't Real”

What people said

40 of the 81 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“flock is broken at a conceptual level and that means really no amount of implementation details will fix it”

CriticizesComment from 26 Oct 2026 in “In Leaked Audio, Flock CEO Tells Cops Backlash to the Company Isn't Real”

“Axon and Flock buying off town officials is just educational trips for potential customers.”

CriticizesComment from 21 Oct 2026 in “How Corruption Got This Bad”

“There's nothing better about working at Flock or X or Kalshi or Palantir”

MixedComment from 20 Oct 2026 in “Facebook Pages require paid subscription to post more than two links per month”

“The flock system is being abused by every organization across the entire country”

CriticizesComment from 19 Oct 2026 in “Ousted Savannah police officer gave ICE agent husband access to Flock system”

“Flock's other major implementation issues and other features that have nothing to do with ALPR”

CriticizesComment from 7 Oct 2026 in “A Cop's Case for Flock”

“A major issue with surveillance tech like this is that it actually works.”

MixedComment from 3 Oct 2026 in “Federal judge calls Flock 'indiscriminate mass surveillance'”

“a slick commercial product consciously designed to make its users trust it and use it more and rely on it more”

CriticizesComment from 28 Sep 2026 in “Driver Ticketed for No Insurance Just Because Flock (YC 2017) Said She Didn't”

“What makes mass surveillance systems such as Flock, Ring, etc., incredibly objectionable isn't really the cameras.”

CriticizesComment from 9 Sep 2026 in “Flock Wants a Closely Surveilled World with No Exit”

“there is potential for abuse, but that's a risk we're willing to impose on society to make some money”

CriticizesComment from 5 Sep 2026 in “Flock used >100 times to track veteran who recorded traffic stop”

“Flock had some prompts (/queries or something like that) leak and apparently something as innocuous as visiting multiple gas stations after hours”

CriticizesComment from 29 Aug 2026 in “Flock CEO's Address Spread Online as Surveillance Backlash Explodes”

“After watching the public flaying of Flock, they're certainly welcome to step into the spotlight next”

CriticizesComment from 29 Aug 2026 in “Flock CEO's Address Spread Online as Surveillance Backlash Explodes”

“Flock was essentially a data warehouse with dark patterns around sharing settings”

CriticizesComment from 29 Aug 2026 in “Flock CEO's Address Spread Online as Surveillance Backlash Explodes”

“People cite Flock as an example of this.”

MixedComment from 19 Aug 2026 in “Civic Hygiene – avoid building technologies that could be used by a police state (2013)”

“Some tools (Flock) can have audit trails aka information access - and also therefore limitations”

MixedComment from 6 Aug 2026 in “Cops Used Flock to Track a Man Across State Lines for a Pretextual Weed Search”

“Flock appears to have been a way for them to work around all of that and just answer any question they had willy-nilly.”

CriticizesComment from 6 Aug 2026 in “Cities Are Ditching Flock, Replacing It with Axon License Plate Readers”

“their "Transparency Portal" is... not. I know of at least three agencies in my County who are using Flock who are not listed on the Transparency Portal...”

CriticizesComment from 6 Aug 2026 in “Cities Are Ditching Flock, Replacing It with Axon License Plate Readers”

“the tool empowers such easy abuse of liberty that people make no efforts to hide what they're doing”

CriticizesComment from 20 Jul 2026 in “DeKalb deputy charged with Flock camera misuse; more Georgia officers fired”

“The data is identifiable. Just because it's gated by some transformation doesn't mean they are magically not holding my identifiable information.”

CriticizesComment from 13 Jul 2026 in “LAPD lets contract with surveillance giant Flock expire”

“As opposed to their mayor/governor/president, who they not only can easily find out who it is if they don't already”

CriticizesComment from 13 Jul 2026 in “LAPD lets contract with surveillance giant Flock expire”

“They seem to be the most auditable and accountable.”

MixedComment from 13 Jul 2026 in “LAPD lets contract with surveillance giant Flock expire”

“The problem with Flock is not who owns the data, it's the potential for abuse.”

CriticizesComment from 13 Jul 2026 in “LAPD lets contract with surveillance giant Flock expire”

“offer data laundering so that organizations that shouldn't be talking can communicate”

CriticizesComment from 28 Jun 2026 in “Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast”

“Flock operates a service that undermines and endangers society as well as innocent individuals”

CriticizesComment from 24 Jun 2026 in “Flock CEO: "They're Gonna Enforce Immigration No Matter What Flock Does"”

“If this for some reason fails, misconfiguration or unexpected shutdown, you could have a failure that's hard to track or debug”

CriticizesComment from 4 Jun 2026 in “You Don't Love Systemd Timers Enough”

“Flocks only use is for the systematic tracking of people for use by police and government agencies”

CriticizesComment from 31 May 2026 in “Deflock hits 100k ALPRs Mapped in USA”

“Flock is both making it happen and making it clear that they are fine with enabling bad actors to take advantage of it.”

CriticizesComment from 28 May 2026 in “Legislation Killed Would Have Effectively Blocked Police LPR, Including Flock”

“the people deploying these cameras have no idea the feeds are being resold to Flock”

CriticizesComment from 1 May 2026 in “City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children's Gymnastics Room as a Sales Demo”

“Flock has been a key contributor in solving numerous crimes.”

RecommendsComment from 15 Apr 2026 in “Stop Flock”

“it's a giant database of photos, locations, times, license plate information, and likely a lot more”

CriticizesComment from 14 Apr 2026 in “I wrote to Flock's privacy contact to opt out of their domestic spying program”

“the effect on my follow-through has been significant”

RecommendsComment from 4 Mar 2026 in “Show HN: Flock – Share your daily todos with friends for accountability”

“Companies like Discord, Flock, and Palantir get a lot of flak because they deserve it.”

CriticizesComment from 25 Feb 2026 in “Hacker News.love – 22 projects Hacker News didn't love”

“I don't think Flock is this Big EviL coMpaNy you are making them out to be.”

RecommendsComment from 11 Feb 2026 in “Amazon Ring's lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance”

“You can even skip the investigator in a lot of places, thanks to Flock. Dystopian.”

CriticizesComment from 6 Jan 2026 in “Locating a Photo of a Vehicle in 30 Seconds with GeoSpy”

“it makes sense to use "flock" to prevent overlapping executions of frequently running jobs”

RecommendsComment from 27 Dec 2025 in “More Dynamic Cronjobs”

“Flock didn't stop the shooting, nor apprehend the killer alive. There's zero utility in post-hoc surveillance to the taxpayer.”

CriticizesComment from 19 Dec 2025 in “Hated AI company finds MIT killer”

“With ALPR's police have immediate access without warrants to the nationwide network.”

CriticizesComment from 16 Dec 2025 in “alpr.watch”

“see what they're working on, track your intentions against specific goals”

RecommendsComment from 16 Dec 2025 in “Ask HN: What Are You Working On? (December 2025)”

“They might record someone's car being near some place where maybe something illegal happened.”

CriticizesComment from 21 Nov 2025 in “How Cops Are Using Flock's ALPR Network to Surveil Protesters and Activists”

“once someone has a hammer, especially one that grants them this much extra power, they will go looking for nails”

CriticizesComment from 21 Nov 2025 in “How Cops Are Using Flock's ALPR Network to Surveil Protesters and Activists”

“All the coverage lately on things like Flock and other privacy-reducing panopticon startups always softball the topic so hard.”

CriticizesComment from 21 Nov 2025 in “CBP is monitoring US drivers and detaining those with suspicious travel patterns”

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