Delve

“an AI research tool that won't answer for you”

“Delve used an audit mill they paid to rubber-stamp the cookie-cutter and AI slop reports it authored.”

“it was the "much more" (fabricating SOC 2 and ISO 27001 compliance) that caused them to get into trouble”

“Startups can lie, cheat and steal, and their customers "love" them until they find out they've been duped.”

“Of all the possible uses for LLMs, that has got to be one of the most out and out irresponsible and dangerous ones”

“put an impressively secure looking logo on their site and effectively whitewash needing to do anything else”

“The organization carries out background and/or reference checks on all new employees and contractors prior to joining”

“I wish I could debug it like I do with a Go app with delve”

“it worked quite well specially when models weren't as good as they are now”

“not being honest with your customers when you are a compliance company is not going to be great for business”

“Not "finding new auditors to replace those that want nothing to do with us and our standards were shite"”

“The specific fraud allegations are bad (lying about US based auditors)”

“Copy-paste templates. 493 out of 494 leaked SOC 2 reports (99.8%) had identical text, same grammatical errors”

“you'd expect a compliance company to understand basic software licensing, especially the most popular.”

“The problem is the malicious intent, you just can't do that anywhere, esp not in a trust based business”

“they made the cardinal mistake of defrauding other YC companies instead of the general public”

“the company that was selling companies pre-made “You’re hipaa compliant” pdfs was doing fraud”

“Delve customers were literally trying to obey the law and Delve (allegedly) lied to them about it.”

“Delve doesn't even have the ability to claim anything they've done as original, unless you count fraud as a service.”

“The only thing that makes delve worse in my book is that they're selling compliance, they have zero excuses.”

“Delve doesn’t even have the ability to claim anything they’ve done as original, unless you count fraud as a service.”

“It also reveals how shallow the vetting YC does. This is both on delve and YC initially accepting them.”

“someone who sells open source code for millions despite not having a license to do so is almost certainly cheating in other areas as well”

“I'd be more concerned about a shareholder lawsuit if Delve told their investors that they owned the IP of said platform.”

“The average delve customer startup might be less secure that the average startup who has to justify their processes to a real auditor.”

“The leaked excel sheet with customers of Delve is basically a shortlist of targets for hackers to try now.”

“Now you're just left with the ethos of cheating your way to the top without a real business to attach it to.”

“We were unable to answer most questions honestly without jeopardizing the deals we were trying to land.”

“the elites like the MIT dropouts that started this company think the rest of us observers are stupid”

“The rookie mistake they made is they forgot to bribe the regulators with promises of future job offers.”

“None of their ISO 27001 certificates, aside from the premium one-offs with the vCISO, are accredited by any reputable ISO accreditation body.”

“they only began to step away from Delve once they realized they couldn't close the deals they wanted”

“I can't understand a team of engineers PRE-PUBLISHING A TRUST REPORT before a single field has been filled out.”

“the allegations here is that it is fraud. An "AI" company acting as a front for certification mills”

“only be concerned about the complete illegitimacy of their certs when they were already exposed”

“Delve is in control of the auditing process in a way that is inappropriate and unusual for this industry.”

“Delve fakes compliance while creating the appearance of compliance without the underlying substance”

“it's a whole other thing to say you don't have to have board meetings and generating fake minutes”

“expensive marketing predicated heavily on them being MIT dropouts instead of any expertise in the space”

“Honestly, Delve is great.”