DeepSeek V4 Pro
Hacker ApprovedRanked 11 of 72 language models by recommenders
A near-frontier coding model at a fraction of rivals' cost, helped by strong context caching, though it trails Opus at planning and can misread intent or make mistakes.
A near-frontier coding model at a fraction of rivals' cost, helped by strong context caching, though it trails Opus at planning and can misread intent or make mistakes.
420 people gave an opinion
- recommend it
- 302
- criticize it
- 118
- approval share
- 72%
Recommended in 7 of 13 months
- November 2025: not recommended
- December 2025: not recommended
- January 2026: not recommended
- February 2026: not recommended
- March 2026: not recommended
- April 2026: recommended
- May 2026: recommended
- June 2026: recommended
- July 2026: recommended
- August 2026: recommended
- September 2026: recommended
- October 2026: recommended
- November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)
Owned for 1 month
Median of the 16 owners who said how long they have had it.
Each square is one year.
Why it carries the badge
- 302 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
- 2.6 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, met.
- Recommended in 7 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.
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What people say about it
The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.
Why people recommend it
Each mark is one comment
Far cheaper than rival models
“It's quality of work is not bad at all, it is fairly fast and given the fraction of the cost compared to Claude, I can keep going which makes it a very compelling option.”
Comment from 15 May 2026 in “Cut Off: why access to frontier AI will soon be scarce and selective” “Its just as capable, and makes the same kinds of dumb mistakes and the other two have been making since March. For the price, I'm more than happy with it.”
Comment from 8 Jun 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro beats GPT-5.5 Pro on precision” “the model is REALLY good. I try Claude at work and Deepseek personally and this is the only model that works without trying to actively bankcrypt me.”
Comment from 22 May 2026 in “DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent” - Comment from 29 Jun 2026 in “Semgrep: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our Cyber Benchmarks”
- Comment from 23 Jun 2026 in “AI's Affordability Crisis”
- Comment from 24 May 2026 in “DeepSeek to Make Permanent 75% Discount on Flagship AI Model”
- Comment from 24 May 2026 in “DeepSeek to Make Permanent 75% Discount on Flagship AI Model”
- Comment from 20 Aug 2026 in “Launch HN: Speko (YC S26) – OpenRouter for Voice AI”
- Comment from 18 Jul 2026 in “Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol on an NP-Hard Problem: Does /goal help?”
- Comment from 27 Jun 2026 in “DeepSeek open-sources inference optimizations with 60–85% faster generation [pdf]”
- Comment from 8 Jun 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro beats GPT-5.5 Pro on precision”
- Comment from 13 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek API Pricing Update”
- Comment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813”
Excellent context caching
“DeepSeek has consistently been among the best performers and its extreme caching performance makes it cheaper than just about anything”
Comment from 29 Jun 2026 in “Semgrep: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our Cyber Benchmarks” “it's costing the same or less than the typical coding subscription, due to the discount and the power of context caching”
Comment from 24 May 2026 in “DeepSeek to Make Permanent 75% Discount on Flagship AI Model” “the cache-hit rate is extremely high, and the cache invalidation window is much longer than every other provider's”
Comment from 7 May 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May” - Comment from 3 May 2026 in “Kimi K2.6 just beat Claude, GPT-5.5, and Gemini in a coding challenge”
- Comment from 8 Jun 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro beats GPT-5.5 Pro on precision”
- Comment from 3 May 2026 in “Kimi K2.6 just beat Claude, GPT-5.5, and Gemini in a coding challenge”
Strong implementation from detailed plans
“solid at implementation when given a specification, but falls a good bit short of Opus 4.7 max thinking when planning out larger changes”
Comment from 2 May 2026 in “DeepSeek V4–almost on the frontier, a fraction of the price” “I can't trust it to write it's own plans from a spec, but if I give it a detailed execution plan written by Opus, it's fast and cheap”
Comment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813” “Results for kimi and deepseek are pretty much indistinguishable from opus for coding if opus writes the plan”
Comment from 12 Jun 2026 in “Kimi K2.7-Code: open-source coding model with better token efficiency” - Comment from 18 Jul 2026 in “Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol on an NP-Hard Problem: Does /goal help?”
- Comment from 12 Jun 2026 in “Kimi K2.7-Code: open-source coding model with better token efficiency”
Close to frontier model quality
“We have lots of open-weight models like DeepSeek V4 Pro that are very close to SOTA and we know the cost of running them.”
Comment from 26 May 2026 in “Using AI to write better code more slowly” “I really do feel like DeepSeek V4 Pro is often better than current Sonnet is, in the general case.”
Comment from 13 Jun 2026 in “US Government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5” “DeepSeek v4 Pro is a far more capable model and still cheaper than anything that it competes with”
Comment from 13 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek API Pricing Update” - Comment from 10 Jun 2026 in “If Claude Fable stops helping you, you'll never know”
What people warn about
Each mark is one comment
Weaker than Opus at planning
“solid at implementation when given a specification, but falls a good bit short of Opus 4.7 max thinking when planning out larger changes”
Comment from 2 May 2026 in “DeepSeek V4–almost on the frontier, a fraction of the price” “I can't trust it to write it's own plans from a spec, but if I give it a detailed execution plan written by Opus, it's fast and cheap”
Comment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813” “DeepSeek V4-Pro Max shines in competitive coding benchmarks. However, it trails both Opus models on software engineering.”
Comment from 24 Apr 2026 in “DeepSeek v4” - Comment from 14 Jun 2026 in “GLM 5.2 Is Out”
Mistakes and misunderstood intent
“V4-pro in particular seems very capable, but will just dramatically completely misunderstand user intent”
Comment from 15 Aug 2026 in “Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?” “it would always start off promising, just to quickly get sidetracked, start hallucinating problems in the code”
Comment from 9 Sep 2026 in “DeepSeek launching v4.1 flash cheaper and more capable than v4 pro” “DeepSeek V4 Pro is really affordable per-token but regularly kept making mistakes in the tasks I gave it”
Comment from 16 Jul 2026 in “Kimi K3 is now live” - Comment from 24 May 2026 in “DeepSeek reasonix, engineered for low token cost during long running sessions”
- Comment from 19 Jun 2026 in “Norway imposes near ban on AI in elementary school”
Privacy and training-data concerns
“Their privacy policy doesn't forbid them from just straight up publishing your raw prompts as training data.”
Comment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813” “requires enabling "Allow paid endpoints that train on request data" in the OpenRouter privacy settings”
Comment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813”
Other language models people recommend
The four most recommended other language models, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.
| Product | Recommend | Criticize | Approval | Months | Owned | Badge |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Claude Opus | 3,331 | 2,746 | 55% | 13 | 4 mo156 owners | — |
| OpenAI GPT | 1,205 | 987 | 55% | 13 | 6 mo47 owners | — |
| Claude Sonnet | 854 | 586 | 59% | 13 | 6 mo46 owners | — |
| DeepSeek V4 Flash | 828 | 223 | 79% | 8 | 1 mo24 owners | Approved |
| DeepSeek V4 Pro | 302 | 118 | 72% | 7 | 1 mo16 owners | Approved |
What people said
40 of the 601 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.
“it would always start off promising, just to quickly get sidetracked, start hallucinating problems in the code”
“DeepSeek-V4-Pro plus a small dedicated STT beat an end-to-end frontier voice model on cost-per-minute by ~10x”
“V4-pro in particular seems very capable, but will just dramatically completely misunderstand user intent”
“DeepSeek v4 Pro is a far more capable model and still cheaper than anything that it competes with”
“For tasks like pondering on something, reviewing code, etc. I use Pro, just because it feels like the right model for that.”
“I can't trust it to write it's own plans from a spec, but if I give it a detailed execution plan written by Opus, it's fast and cheap”
“Their privacy policy doesn't forbid them from just straight up publishing your raw prompts as training data.”
“requires enabling "Allow paid endpoints that train on request data" in the OpenRouter privacy settings”
“As it is now, they could double or triple prices and it still would be a better value to use DS.”
“except for Hy3 , DeepSeek v4 Pro , and MiMo v2.5 Pro (whose API rates are cheap and/or discounted already)”
“Deepseek is far and away the most cost effective, fast, and quite good for 90% of implementation work.”
“DeepSeek V4 Pro is really affordable per-token but regularly kept making mistakes in the tasks I gave it”
“GPT 5.6 was picking up on quality and functional issues from DeepSeek and having it resolve them cleanly”
“greatest example of abundance of cheap infinite intelligence will be not glm5.2 but DeepSeek V4 Pro max”
“DeepSeek has consistently been among the best performers and its extreme caching performance makes it cheaper than just about anything”
“I have been heavily using DeepSeek V4 Pro at Max for a month now and I would say it is 100x cheaper.”
“The quality of what you can get from DeepSeek V4 Pro for $10 is light years ahead of what you could get for $20 a year ago.”
“on questions that it couldn't figure out, it only stated that it didn't know around 6% of the time”
“it's pretty obvious from the amount of times I've had to fix or revert a change that broke something that it's no opus”
“I really do feel like DeepSeek V4 Pro is often better than current Sonnet is, in the general case.”
“Results for kimi and deepseek are pretty much indistinguishable from opus for coding if opus writes the plan”
“Kimi and deepseek are pretty much indistinguishable from opus for coding if opus writes the plan.”
“Openweight models turned a corner around kimi 2.6, deepseek v4 pro/flash, hy3 and mimo 2.5 pro.”
“I switched to DeepSeek v4 Pro with OpenCode and am on track for a few hundred dollars of spend this month.”
“Pay for more expensive APIs like deepseek v4 pro, gemini 3.5 flash, etc. This option is not too expensive.”
“DeepSeek V4 Pro is so cheap, especially given their caching effectiveness and cached input pricing”
“Its just as capable, and makes the same kinds of dumb mistakes and the other two have been making since March. For the price, I'm more than happy with it.”
“We have lots of open-weight models like DeepSeek V4 Pro that are very close to SOTA and we know the cost of running them.”
“it's costing the same or less than the typical coding subscription, due to the discount and the power of context caching”
“DeepSeek's architecture is significantly more cost effective than anything from Google, OpenAI, or Anthropic.”
“I have extreme trouble with prompt compliance with V4 Pro in a way that I've never had with Sonnet.”
“It's good and cheap, but don't talk about politics to it or it might trigger some sort of censorship rule.”
“the model is REALLY good. I try Claude at work and Deepseek personally and this is the only model that works without trying to actively bankcrypt me.”
“It's quality of work is not bad at all, it is fairly fast and given the fraction of the cost compared to Claude, I can keep going which makes it a very compelling option.”
“the cache-hit rate is extremely high, and the cache invalidation window is much longer than every other provider's”
“DeepSeek V4 Pro is way more effective at batching multiple tasks together since the KV cache is so much lighter”
“This actually works quite well for DeepSeek V4 series which has comparatively tiny KV-cache sizes”
“I just spent a whole day using it for some pretty hefty refactors, many rounds of back-and-forths, thousands of lines of code changes”
“solid at implementation when given a specification, but falls a good bit short of Opus 4.7 max thinking when planning out larger changes”
“DeepSeek V4-Pro Max shines in competitive coding benchmarks. However, it trails both Opus models on software engineering.”
Counts come from 1,795,640 Hacker News comments, November 2025 to November 2026. How we count. Report a mistake.