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DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Ranked 11 of 72 language models by recommenders

A near-frontier coding model at a fraction of rivals' cost, helped by strong context caching, though it trails Opus at planning and can misread intent or make mistakes.

A near-frontier coding model at a fraction of rivals' cost, helped by strong context caching, though it trails Opus at planning and can misread intent or make mistakes.

420 people gave an opinion

recommend it
302
criticize it
118
approval share
72%
Each figure is 5 people. RecommendsCriticizes

Recommended in 7 of 13 months

  1. November 2025: not recommended
  2. December 2025: not recommended
  3. January 2026: not recommended
  4. February 2026: not recommended
  5. March 2026: not recommended
  6. April 2026: recommended
  7. May 2026: recommended
  8. June 2026: recommended
  9. July 2026: recommended
  10. August 2026: recommended
  11. September 2026: recommended
  12. October 2026: recommended
  13. November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)

Owned for 1 month

Median of the 16 owners who said how long they have had it.

Each square is one year.

Why it carries the badge

  • 302 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
  • 2.6 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, met.
  • Recommended in 7 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.

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What people say about it

The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.

Why people recommend it

Each mark is one comment

  • Far cheaper than rival models

    “It's quality of work is not bad at all, it is fairly fast and given the fraction of the cost compared to Claude, I can keep going which makes it a very compelling option.”

    Comment from 15 May 2026 in “Cut Off: why access to frontier AI will soon be scarce and selective”

    “Its just as capable, and makes the same kinds of dumb mistakes and the other two have been making since March. For the price, I'm more than happy with it.”

    Comment from 8 Jun 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro beats GPT-5.5 Pro on precision”

    “the model is REALLY good. I try Claude at work and Deepseek personally and this is the only model that works without trying to actively bankcrypt me.”

    Comment from 22 May 2026 in “DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent”
  • Excellent context caching

    “DeepSeek has consistently been among the best performers and its extreme caching performance makes it cheaper than just about anything”

    Comment from 29 Jun 2026 in “Semgrep: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our Cyber Benchmarks”

    “it's costing the same or less than the typical coding subscription, due to the discount and the power of context caching”

    Comment from 24 May 2026 in “DeepSeek to Make Permanent 75% Discount on Flagship AI Model”

    “the cache-hit rate is extremely high, and the cache invalidation window is much longer than every other provider's”

    Comment from 7 May 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May”
  • Strong implementation from detailed plans

    “solid at implementation when given a specification, but falls a good bit short of Opus 4.7 max thinking when planning out larger changes”

    Comment from 2 May 2026 in “DeepSeek V4–almost on the frontier, a fraction of the price”

    “I can't trust it to write it's own plans from a spec, but if I give it a detailed execution plan written by Opus, it's fast and cheap”

    Comment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813”

    “Results for kimi and deepseek are pretty much indistinguishable from opus for coding if opus writes the plan”

    Comment from 12 Jun 2026 in “Kimi K2.7-Code: open-source coding model with better token efficiency”
  • Close to frontier model quality

    “We have lots of open-weight models like DeepSeek V4 Pro that are very close to SOTA and we know the cost of running them.”

    Comment from 26 May 2026 in “Using AI to write better code more slowly”

    “I really do feel like DeepSeek V4 Pro is often better than current Sonnet is, in the general case.”

    Comment from 13 Jun 2026 in “US Government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5”

    “DeepSeek v4 Pro is a far more capable model and still cheaper than anything that it competes with”

    Comment from 13 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek API Pricing Update”

What people warn about

Each mark is one comment

  • Weaker than Opus at planning

    “solid at implementation when given a specification, but falls a good bit short of Opus 4.7 max thinking when planning out larger changes”

    Comment from 2 May 2026 in “DeepSeek V4–almost on the frontier, a fraction of the price”

    “I can't trust it to write it's own plans from a spec, but if I give it a detailed execution plan written by Opus, it's fast and cheap”

    Comment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813”

    “DeepSeek V4-Pro Max shines in competitive coding benchmarks. However, it trails both Opus models on software engineering.”

    Comment from 24 Apr 2026 in “DeepSeek v4”
  • Mistakes and misunderstood intent

    “V4-pro in particular seems very capable, but will just dramatically completely misunderstand user intent”

    Comment from 15 Aug 2026 in “Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?”

    “it would always start off promising, just to quickly get sidetracked, start hallucinating problems in the code”

    Comment from 9 Sep 2026 in “DeepSeek launching v4.1 flash cheaper and more capable than v4 pro”

    “DeepSeek V4 Pro is really affordable per-token but regularly kept making mistakes in the tasks I gave it”

    Comment from 16 Jul 2026 in “Kimi K3 is now live”
  • Privacy and training-data concerns

    “Their privacy policy doesn't forbid them from just straight up publishing your raw prompts as training data.”

    Comment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813”

    “requires enabling "Allow paid endpoints that train on request data" in the OpenRouter privacy settings”

    Comment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813”

Other language models people recommend

The four most recommended other language models, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.

DeepSeek V4 Pro compared with 4 alternatives
ProductRecommendCriticizeApprovalMonthsOwnedBadge
Claude Opus3,3312,74655%134 mo156 owners—
OpenAI GPT1,20598755%136 mo47 owners—
Claude Sonnet85458659%136 mo46 owners—
DeepSeek V4 Flash82822379%81 mo24 ownersApproved
DeepSeek V4 ProThis page30211872%71 mo16 ownersApproved
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What people said

40 of the 601 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.

“it would always start off promising, just to quickly get sidetracked, start hallucinating problems in the code”

CriticizesComment from 9 Sep 2026 in “DeepSeek launching v4.1 flash cheaper and more capable than v4 pro”

“DeepSeek-V4-Pro plus a small dedicated STT beat an end-to-end frontier voice model on cost-per-minute by ~10x”

RecommendsComment from 20 Aug 2026 in “Launch HN: Speko (YC S26) – OpenRouter for Voice AI”

“V4-pro in particular seems very capable, but will just dramatically completely misunderstand user intent”

MixedComment from 15 Aug 2026 in “Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?”

“DeepSeek v4 Pro is a far more capable model and still cheaper than anything that it competes with”

RecommendsComment from 13 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek API Pricing Update”

“For tasks like pondering on something, reviewing code, etc. I use Pro, just because it feels like the right model for that.”

RecommendsComment from 13 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813”

“I can't trust it to write it's own plans from a spec, but if I give it a detailed execution plan written by Opus, it's fast and cheap”

MixedComment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813”

“Their privacy policy doesn't forbid them from just straight up publishing your raw prompts as training data.”

CriticizesComment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813”

“requires enabling "Allow paid endpoints that train on request data" in the OpenRouter privacy settings”

CriticizesComment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813”

“As it is now, they could double or triple prices and it still would be a better value to use DS.”

RecommendsComment from 12 Aug 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813”

“except for Hy3 , DeepSeek v4 Pro , and MiMo v2.5 Pro (whose API rates are cheap and/or discounted already)”

RecommendsComment from 22 Jul 2026 in “Kimi K3 Is Competitive with Fable; Kimi K3 and Fable Is SoTA”

“Deepseek is far and away the most cost effective, fast, and quite good for 90% of implementation work.”

RecommendsComment from 18 Jul 2026 in “Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol on an NP-Hard Problem: Does /goal help?”

“DeepSeek V4 Pro is really affordable per-token but regularly kept making mistakes in the tasks I gave it”

CriticizesComment from 16 Jul 2026 in “Kimi K3 is now live”

“GPT 5.6 was picking up on quality and functional issues from DeepSeek and having it resolve them cleanly”

RecommendsComment from 10 Jul 2026 in “GPT-5.6”

“greatest example of abundance of cheap infinite intelligence will be not glm5.2 but DeepSeek V4 Pro max”

RecommendsComment from 7 Jul 2026 in “GLM 5.2 and the coming AI margin collapse”

“DeepSeek has consistently been among the best performers and its extreme caching performance makes it cheaper than just about anything”

RecommendsComment from 29 Jun 2026 in “Semgrep: GLM 5.2 beats Claude in our Cyber Benchmarks”

“I have been heavily using DeepSeek V4 Pro at Max for a month now and I would say it is 100x cheaper.”

RecommendsComment from 27 Jun 2026 in “DeepSeek open-sources inference optimizations with 60–85% faster generation [pdf]”

“The quality of what you can get from DeepSeek V4 Pro for $10 is light years ahead of what you could get for $20 a year ago.”

RecommendsComment from 23 Jun 2026 in “AI's Affordability Crisis”

“on questions that it couldn't figure out, it only stated that it didn't know around 6% of the time”

CriticizesComment from 19 Jun 2026 in “Norway imposes near ban on AI in elementary school”

“it's pretty obvious from the amount of times I've had to fix or revert a change that broke something that it's no opus”

CriticizesComment from 14 Jun 2026 in “GLM 5.2 Is Out”

“I really do feel like DeepSeek V4 Pro is often better than current Sonnet is, in the general case.”

RecommendsComment from 13 Jun 2026 in “US Government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5”

“Results for kimi and deepseek are pretty much indistinguishable from opus for coding if opus writes the plan”

RecommendsComment from 12 Jun 2026 in “Kimi K2.7-Code: open-source coding model with better token efficiency”

“Kimi and deepseek are pretty much indistinguishable from opus for coding if opus writes the plan.”

RecommendsComment from 12 Jun 2026 in “Kimi K2.7-Code: open-source coding model with better token efficiency”

“Openweight models turned a corner around kimi 2.6, deepseek v4 pro/flash, hy3 and mimo 2.5 pro.”

RecommendsComment from 10 Jun 2026 in “If Claude Fable stops helping you, you'll never know”

“I switched to DeepSeek v4 Pro with OpenCode and am on track for a few hundred dollars of spend this month.”

RecommendsComment from 10 Jun 2026 in “Claude Fable 5”

“Pay for more expensive APIs like deepseek v4 pro, gemini 3.5 flash, etc. This option is not too expensive.”

RecommendsComment from 8 Jun 2026 in “Apple reveals new AI architecture built around Google Gemini models”

“DeepSeek V4 Pro is so cheap, especially given their caching effectiveness and cached input pricing”

RecommendsComment from 8 Jun 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro beats GPT-5.5 Pro on precision”

“Its just as capable, and makes the same kinds of dumb mistakes and the other two have been making since March. For the price, I'm more than happy with it.”

RecommendsComment from 8 Jun 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro beats GPT-5.5 Pro on precision”

“We have lots of open-weight models like DeepSeek V4 Pro that are very close to SOTA and we know the cost of running them.”

RecommendsComment from 26 May 2026 in “Using AI to write better code more slowly”

“it's costing the same or less than the typical coding subscription, due to the discount and the power of context caching”

RecommendsComment from 24 May 2026 in “DeepSeek to Make Permanent 75% Discount on Flagship AI Model”

“DeepSeek's architecture is significantly more cost effective than anything from Google, OpenAI, or Anthropic.”

MixedComment from 24 May 2026 in “DeepSeek to Make Permanent 75% Discount on Flagship AI Model”

“I have extreme trouble with prompt compliance with V4 Pro in a way that I've never had with Sonnet.”

CriticizesComment from 24 May 2026 in “DeepSeek reasonix, engineered for low token cost during long running sessions”

“It's good and cheap, but don't talk about politics to it or it might trigger some sort of censorship rule.”

MixedComment from 22 May 2026 in “DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent”

“the model is REALLY good. I try Claude at work and Deepseek personally and this is the only model that works without trying to actively bankcrypt me.”

RecommendsComment from 22 May 2026 in “DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent”

“It's quality of work is not bad at all, it is fairly fast and given the fraction of the cost compared to Claude, I can keep going which makes it a very compelling option.”

RecommendsComment from 15 May 2026 in “Cut Off: why access to frontier AI will soon be scarce and selective”

“the cache-hit rate is extremely high, and the cache invalidation window is much longer than every other provider's”

RecommendsComment from 7 May 2026 in “DeepSeek V4 Pro at 75% off until 31 May”

“DeepSeek V4 Pro is way more effective at batching multiple tasks together since the KV cache is so much lighter”

RecommendsComment from 3 May 2026 in “Kimi K2.6 just beat Claude, GPT-5.5, and Gemini in a coding challenge”

“This actually works quite well for DeepSeek V4 series which has comparatively tiny KV-cache sizes”

RecommendsComment from 3 May 2026 in “Kimi K2.6 just beat Claude, GPT-5.5, and Gemini in a coding challenge”

“I just spent a whole day using it for some pretty hefty refactors, many rounds of back-and-forths, thousands of lines of code changes”

RecommendsComment from 2 May 2026 in “DeepSeek V4–almost on the frontier, a fraction of the price”

“solid at implementation when given a specification, but falls a good bit short of Opus 4.7 max thinking when planning out larger changes”

MixedComment from 2 May 2026 in “DeepSeek V4–almost on the frontier, a fraction of the price”

“DeepSeek V4-Pro Max shines in competitive coding benchmarks. However, it trails both Opus models on software engineering.”

MixedComment from 24 Apr 2026 in “DeepSeek v4”

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