AT Protocol

“The permission primitives should be baked in from the start rather than the bolted on after spaces”

“AT Proto has a chance to really help here, so that governments and other orgs and publish structured content”

“That is most of what a firmware update channel needed, and it drastically reduced the problem space”

“being able to separate personal data from social platforms will make it far easier for people to mass migrate”

“It's the only thing I'm aware of that provides for actually forking a public social network.”

“still far less centralized than the status quo, where the data, the permissions, and every function on top all belong to one company”

“its a bare minimum (ACL) token acceptence of reality, I don't get the sense they actually believe in private data on social”

“AT proto's main innovation to me is decoupling the concerns of user identifier and data host at the protocol level”

“I find at proto pretty cool, and I like the fact that I could actually migrate server without losing anything”

“That proposal is insufficient. I was deeply involved in the private data discussions, built a PDS fork / prototype on ReBAC/SpiceDB”

“ATProto is trying to implement privacy on top of global public pub/sub which just obviously doesn't work.”

“it's not decentralized in any meaningful way, which is what a lot of ATProto proponents want you to believe”

“In atproto, you can swap hosting (without changing apps), and you can create and use different apps”

“AT Proto's fundamental issue is that the data is open and every dev thinks they should have access to every user's data.”

“The ability to deal with spam and disinformation seems so much radically better than anything else we've been able to work from.”

“You just have to update the central PLC registry run by Blue Sky LLC to say which server you're hosted on now.”

“If you consider people's worries of centralization happening with AT, that's not necessarily a good sign.”

“the AT protocol means that any individual forge can go down, but the data remains accessible from other AppViews”

“betting on using open interoperation to allow people to keep finding systems, moderation, algorithms, tools, and apps that work”

“The design of feeds (algos) and labellers (moderation) is unique and one of the best parts of the protocol.”

“the bandwidth problem is solved in a way that doesn't make it prohibitively expensive for alternative appview hosting”

“ATproto is just an experiment no one should build serious things on until there are proper access controls”

“ATProto actually has a very good moderation design, user choice, anyone can label, and composable.”

“makes us marginally less safe, due to its technical "centralization via confirmation" of the data it "broadcasts."”

“ATProto can be much more than social media tech, more like a plug-n-play distributed system”

“Atproto is terrible at decentralization however, because of the model where data is stored decentrally, but accessed centrally”

“you get the advantages of app-driven innovation without requiring data reliant on that feature to live in that application's silo”

“AT has people generally working on the next generation of shared infra for social and much more.”

“emerging technology like atproto that give us an opportunity to take back the reins from the oligarchs and corporations”

“This is more durable than just posting to a website in that the content is indexable, discoverable, and reusable by a growing ecosystem”

“The protocol is much more than data portability, it essentially turns the global social media system into a giant distributed system anyone can participate in at any point.”

“I went through the process of setting up a did:web account myself this afternoon, and it was painful.”

“the UX on migration is getting a lot better so it's reasonably approachable for average users”

“While I don't agree with a lot of decisions Bluesky and the broader ATProto community have made, I am very excited that progress towards real decentralization is happening”

“Not really a fan, and the space is full of half working implementations like this post documents.”

“I think that ATProto is going to win against other decentralized/'fediverse' protocols in the long run.”

“AT enables anyone motivated to spin up a whole new product that works with existing data”

“yes, this does solve the original stated problems — we can see in demos from the last section that data doesn't get trapped in apps”

“AT is signed, works with any application-defined data structures, and lets you aggregate over millions of users in real time with subsecond end-to-end latency.”

“Can protocol-as-substrate outlast platform incentives when VC returns require concentration not dispersion?”