Apple TV 4K
Ranked 3 of 10 streaming devices by recommenders
Recommended for smooth, simple streaming, fast hardware, long software support and a privacy-friendly business model, though critics cite missing audio passthrough and a higher price than before.
Recommended for smooth, simple streaming, fast hardware, long software support and a privacy-friendly business model, though critics cite missing audio passthrough and a higher price than before.
206 people gave an opinion
- recommend it
- 93
- criticize it
- 113
- approval share
- 45%
Recommended in 9 of 13 months
- November 2025: not recommended
- December 2025: recommended
- January 2026: recommended
- February 2026: recommended
- March 2026: recommended
- April 2026: not recommended
- May 2026: not recommended
- June 2026: recommended
- July 2026: recommended
- August 2026: recommended
- September 2026: recommended
- October 2026: recommended
- November 2026: not recommended (month in progress)
Owned for 6 years
Median of the 14 owners who said how long they have had it.
Each square is one year.
Why it doesn’t carry the badge
- 93 people recommend itNeeds 10 or more, met.
- 0.8 recommenders for every criticNeeds 2 to 1 or better, not met.
- Recommended in 9 of 13 monthsNeeds 4 or more, met.
The same three rules apply to every product, and the badge can’t be bought. How the badge works
What people say about it
The reasons people give, with the number of comments that give each one. Open a reason to read what they said.
Why people recommend it
Each mark is one comment
Privacy-focused business model
“Apple's the only major purveyor of these kinds of devices whose existential business model is not predicated on privacy violations.”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” “The entire reason I bought an Apple TV was to reduce the amount of data skimming happening in the background”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” “it's more reasonable to place faith in Apple than basically anyone else in "Big Tech" in this regard”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” - Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K”
- Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “Apple TV 4K (New)”
- Comment from 14 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K”
Long lifespan with updates
“my 1st gen 4k AppleTV (6-ish years old?) is chugging away perfectly and runs every single 3rd party streaming platform I need”
Comment from 15 Dec 2025 in “Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted” “I use mine for average of ~7 years, so that helps justify just biting the bullet and paying for whatever is best at the time.”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” “the original Apple TV 4K which was released in 2017 is still quite serviceable and continues to receive updates even now”
Comment from 24 Dec 2025 in “I didn't realize my LG TV was spying on me until I turned off Live Plus” - Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K”
- Comment from 4 Dec 2025 in “Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs”
- Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K”
Smooth, easy to use
“It will just work . You will maybe get an ad or two from Apple, rarely, about Apple services, but it's very rare and easy to ignore.”
Comment from 24 Dec 2025 in “I didn't realize my LG TV was spying on me until I turned off Live Plus” “Any Airpods connect directly to the AppleTV. You don't need the remote, phone or an app at all.”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” “the Apple TV Just WorksTM and we can put our weekly Facetime with Grandma and Grandpa on there”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” - Comment from 30 Jul 2026 in “Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick”
- Comment from 17 Dec 2025 in “Apple TV's New Fanfare”
- Comment from 14 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K”
Small, fast, efficient hardware
“AppleTV is just so much better than any other option out there and I especially like the AV1 hardware decoding here.”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” “the old Apple TV blows the doors off every single Google TV hardware product in performance”
Comment from 25 Jun 2026 in “Apple announces significant price increases for MacBooks, iPads, more” “The Apple TV is an almost perfect small and efficient device to stream to”
Comment from 15 Dec 2025 in “Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted”
What people warn about
Each mark is one comment
No audio passthrough
“The previous model doesn’t support 6-channel 48kHz bitstream audio, which prevents it from advertising full Atmos support over eARC.”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” “The one thing I feel like I'm missing (and would be missing even if I upgraded) is audio passthrough”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” “It does decode AV1 now, so if it had the passthrough, I might have actually upgraded.”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” - Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K”
Higher price than before
“Otherwise, there's not a thing that this offers, that's worth shelling out another 300 bucks.”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” “they announce the product with US features and keep the EU price the same, but disable features that cost them money”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” “If I'm not willing to spend $299 on a device with the same spec, audio/visual wise, as the previous $149 generation”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” - Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K”
Ads and data collection
“Apple TV, Apple Maps & Apple News all perform data mining largely akin to how their competitors do it.”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” “ads that launch before you get to see the content of a show with no way to automatically disable them”
Comment from 30 Jul 2026 in “Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick” Always-listening microphone concerns
“now they want me to hook up two or four HomePods with microphones up to an Apple TV with a microphone”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K” “I do not want ANY internet connected devices in my machine with far field microphones just listening”
Comment from 13 Oct 2026 in “New Apple TV 4K”
Other streaming devices people recommend
The four most recommended other streaming devices, with the same counts for each, so you can compare like for like. The tick on each bar marks the 2 to 1 line the badge needs.
| Product | Recommend | Criticize | Approval | Months | Owned | Badge |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Apple TV 4K | 323 | 160 | 67% | 13 | 5 yrs17 owners | Approved |
| Nvidia Shield TV | 113 | 44 | 72% | 13 | 9 yrs17 owners | Approved |
| Apple TV 4KThis page | 93 | 113 | 45% | 9 | 6 yrs14 owners | — |
| Google Chromecast | 43 | 26 | 62% | 10 | — | — |
| Roku streaming player | 20 | 66 | 23% | 9 | 10 yrs5 owners | — |
What people said
40 of the 238 comments that mention it, newest first. Each links to the original comment.
“I guess if you're not really quite deep in the Apple ecosystem, there's probably better options.”
“Apple is on the Pareto frontier for a given level of config/setup effort”
“I preordered the new AppleTV (coming from Roku), just so my data isn't sold.”
“it's more reasonable to place faith in Apple than basically anyone else in "Big Tech" in this regard”
“If I'm not willing to spend $299 on a device with the same spec, audio/visual wise, as the previous $149 generation”
“Apple's the only major purveyor of these kinds of devices whose existential business model is not predicated on privacy violations.”
“The entire reason I bought an Apple TV was to reduce the amount of data skimming happening in the background”
“Apple TV, Apple Maps & Apple News all perform data mining largely akin to how their competitors do it.”
“The previous model doesn’t support 6-channel 48kHz bitstream audio, which prevents it from advertising full Atmos support over eARC.”
“I use mine for average of ~7 years, so that helps justify just biting the bullet and paying for whatever is best at the time.”
“they announce the product with US features and keep the EU price the same, but disable features that cost them money”
“now they want me to hook up two or four HomePods with microphones up to an Apple TV with a microphone”
“It does decode AV1 now, so if it had the passthrough, I might have actually upgraded.”
“Apple has the most incentive to actually deliver privacy, and has the best track record.”
“Any Airpods connect directly to the AppleTV. You don't need the remote, phone or an app at all.”
“I'm still using an Apple TV 4K 2017 that I bought in 2019. It struggles with a lot of Plex content.”
“mine is the first gen 4K from 2017 and is still chugging along fine”
“The lack of audio passthrough has been so frustrating. Apple TV would be an instant buy for me if it did.”
“I actually bought a new AppleTV 4k a couple months ago but it didn't really solve my problem, so I returned it”
“they survived two years in a suitcase as a digital nomad, as far as I can tell they’re indestructible”
“Otherwise, there's not a thing that this offers, that's worth shelling out another 300 bucks.”
“the Apple TV Just WorksTM and we can put our weekly Facetime with Grandma and Grandpa on there”
“At $130 it was an impulse buy and well worth it. Given a new price and features, I don't see myself upgrading.”
“There may be companies more trustworthy than Apple, but there aren't many companies less worthy than most TV manufacturers.”
“The one thing I feel like I'm missing (and would be missing even if I upgraded) is audio passthrough”
“AppleTV is just so much better than any other option out there and I especially like the AV1 hardware decoding here.”
“I do not want ANY internet connected devices in my machine with far field microphones just listening”
“they are much better than the built in apps and I don't trust the TVs to connect them to the internet”
“it's the one box I can (reasonably) trust to not be mining my viewing habits for data”
“ads that launch before you get to see the content of a show with no way to automatically disable them”
“Apple is the outright winner in streaming devices. The experience is so smooth.”
“I recently got an Apple TV 4K and have been really enjoying the ad free experience. Worth every penny.”
“Wake me when any TV streamer besides the Apple TV 4K can stream a high bitrate 4k HDR video from a Plex server”
“the old Apple TV blows the doors off every single Google TV hardware product in performance”
“It will just work . You will maybe get an ad or two from Apple, rarely, about Apple services, but it's very rare and easy to ignore.”
“the original Apple TV 4K which was released in 2017 is still quite serviceable and continues to receive updates even now”
“the Apple TV is the first device I've used that really feels good to use”
“The Apple TV is an almost perfect small and efficient device to stream to”
“my 1st gen 4k AppleTV (6-ish years old?) is chugging away perfectly and runs every single 3rd party streaming platform I need”
“ATV just keeps chugging away, our family uses it at least an hour a day”
Counts come from 1,795,640 Hacker News comments, November 2025 to November 2026. How we count. Report a mistake.