Apple Account

“Try living without a Google or Apple account in a country where most bank accounts”

“it's a challenge to make an apple account without adding a credit card to your account as well”

“It is quite nerfed compared to a normal Apple account”

“I feel that Apple has coped with this pretty well”

“my personal account already needs to go through the "your account is locked" dance on a daily basis”

“Apple and Google in particular are now too heavily associated with a government hostile to the EU”

“I hate that I need to create an Apple account (with email and phone verification) just to be able download the sdk”

“German implementation of eIDAS will require an Apple/Google account to function”

“Tying to Apple and Google? It is a terrible idea. Both are prone to freeze devices for financial or social issues.”

“If it requires a Google or Apple account, then it also requires those companies never cease an account, either.”

“By shrugging it off as "not great", you're also dooming every citizen to have to comply with whatever whimsical terms of service Google and Apple have.”

“Disgusting to me that even the most basic of logic for what would be someone stealing an account”

“individuals and companies "begging" (their words not mine) Apple to reconsider a decision regarding their account”

“With Apple I get a way of managing my devices, seeing location, remote erase”

“I never get emails or spam associated to it.”

“Maybe Apple will follow suit and won't require an Apple account anymore”

“I cannot buy an iPhone without creating an apple account, without getting ads shoved in my face by apple”

“An Apple account together with an iPhone and MacBook let's you share clipboard, passwords, notes etc., a no brainer.”

“I was pleasantly surprised by the age verification.”

“The OP states they've migrated. That might mean that the field on their account database entry might be related to that move.”

“many apps can independently use a different Apple (nee iCloud) Account specifically for that app”

“The close and zero-effort integration and syncing with iOS is pretty key to my desktop”

“It also won't use the fact that I've had an Apple account and spent 10s of thousands”

“Apple and Google both reserve the right to deny accounts to people without any legal appeal at worst.”

“Was able to transfer all my purchases to my main account pretty easily.”

“locked out of my apple account for 2 months because they kept not sending me verification emails”

“they forced me (and others in that situation) to create another one for iCloud because that one inexplicably has to be an E-mail address”

“Every time, the form on the website errored out with "Your account can currently not be created" without any further information.”

“I gave up after trying different (non-Apple) platforms, IPs and phone numbers.”

“No matter what, Apple just refused to send the verification code to me.”

“Lose your phone and laptop in a theft or fire and you are locked out from your Apple account.”

“they instantly locked the account until I could prove it was really me and that everything was okay”

“Apple didn't dispute that they were the owner, just asserted that they were some kind of criminal.”

“Because big tech has scaled users to the 9-10 figure range, while not investing almost anything in customer service.”

“There is no meaningful way to exist in society today without an Apple or Google account, and that's actually insane.”

“Why would redeeming a bad gift card result in a complete shut-down of the account?”

“made me much more cautious about relying too heavily on the whims of our private megacorp gatekeepers”

“account integrity check pointing is stochastic and more aggressive so at any time there are people being locked out”

“these stories erode our trust that the services themselves can handle the responsibility”

“Every single piece of data that you named is required to do business with them.”